Reply to: One for you SAS people

[Statistician]

That, my friend, is what separates the masters from the amateurs
Also, there is, allegedly, so I've heard, a SAS crack floating around on the net. I wouldn't recommend going that route though.

That, my friend is what separates criminals from law-abiding citizens.

[sasguru]

I didn't even know there was a learning edition!

If I ever used it at home I just got a copy and turned the clock back when the licence ran out.

That, my friend, is what separates the masters from the amateurs
Also, there is, allegedly, so I've heard, a SAS crack floating around on the net. I wouldn't recommend going that route though.

[Bagpuss]

I didn't even know there was a learning edition!

If I ever used it at home I just got a copy and turned the clock back when the licence ran out.

[sasguru]

In my opinion, macros can be written that can make the learning edition read more than 1000 records. You must be aware of this, being the guru of SAS.

Being the "guru of SAS", which is a tongue-in-cheek nom-de-plume anyway, why would I know anything about the "learning" edition? That would be for wannabees like you. Cheeky monkey.

[Boolean]

If the restriction of uploading data from another source into a dataset is restricted to 1000 observations, then yes, you could in theory write a macro (loop) that uploaded data in chunks to get around this.

However, I was under the impression that the 1000 rows restriction applied to all datasets in SAS, so when it came to doing datastep processing, you would only be able to view the first 1000 observations of any dataset or indeed process the first 1000.

can anyone confirm?

[Statistician]

I believe LE has a limitation on the number of records but otherwise is fully functional.

BTW Statistician, have you heard of the internet? I believe it is a good way to research simple questions regarding the availability of courses and functionality of software.

HTH

Yes I have heard of the Internet but I do not believe in everything that gets published on the Internet. I was looking for someone with first-hand knowledge of courses.
BTW, what is this place?
Is it built of brick and mortar?

In my opinion, macros can be written that can make the learning edition read more than 1000 records. You must be aware of this, being the guru of SAS.

[Bagpuss]

If you have a Maths degree, you should have no problem with the Stats.
The level varies depending on industry. Basic stats should be enough for pharma / clin. trials

If you are tables and listings SAS programming you don't need much stats. If you are doing any stats you need degree level. Especially for Phase 1.

If you want to do programming get yourself on a proper SAS course. I can't over emphisize how good they are! Certification is increasingly popular and a must in the US market.
You can do one in Manchester.

http://www.sas.com/apps/wtraining2/t...ROG1UK&ctry=GB

or a cheaper option

http://www.amadeus.co.uk/knowledge/c...tail.php?id=64

[sasguru]

Perhaps some SAS programmer can comment on the usefulness of LE compared to the real thing!!!!!!!!!!

I believe LE has a limitation on the number of records but otherwise is fully functional.

BTW Statistician, have you heard of the internet? I believe it is a good way to research simple questions regarding the availability of courses and functionality of software.

HTH

[Statistician]

Perhaps some SAS programmer can comment on the usefulness of LE compared to the real thing!!!!!!!!!!

[BoredBloke]

It states that 'This software will operate through December 1 2008'

Nothing about any 1 year after installation etc. So that should give me enough time.

[Statistician]

Well I've installed it on my laptop and it doesn't look that bad. Obviously I've only scratched the surface but it seems to look very 'accessy' on the data handling front. I'm going to run through the tutorial and see what its like. Then I'll check out the links from before to look at the macro side of things.

Thanks for all the pointers so far.

Will the license expire one year from install or on 31 Dec 2006?

[BoredBloke]

Well I've installed it on my laptop and it doesn't look that bad. Obviously I've only scratched the surface but it seems to look very 'accessy' on the data handling front. I'm going to run through the tutorial and see what its like. Then I'll check out the links from before to look at the macro side of things.

Thanks for all the pointers so far.

[sasguru]

I know SPSS but no SAS. Is training available in the Glasgow area or is buying the learning edition a better option?

Hmmm. You show all the initiative of a SPSS guy.

[Statistician]

I know SPSS but no SAS. Is training available in the Glasgow area or is buying the learning edition a better option?

[sasguru]

The market is always relatively steady in pharma as SAS has a monopoly - but just like any other technology, you need relevant experience.