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[Ardesco]

* e for an external link

So everybody else finds exactly the same as I do.

I especially liked Spacecadet's "Google for Dummies". Par for this course, dummy.

Hmm didn't darmstadt answer it above....

I would expect the external link to be a link to a resource on another computer. If it displays the link in the same way as a symbolic link when doing an ls -l you should be able to see exactly where it is linking to.

[expat]

i should get some tips from HRH before trying to be "clever"

and I from Threaded before trying to be insulting?

[Spacecadet]

I especially liked Spacecadet's "Google for Dummies". Par for this course, dummy.

i should get some tips from HRH before trying to be "clever"

[expat]

Well I just logged onto one of my zOS 1.9 systems and using both omvs and ish couldn't find any but:

The first character indicates whether this is a file or directory.

* - for a regular file (binary or text)
* c for a character special file
* d for a directory
* e for an external link
* l for a symbolic link
* p for a named pipe (FIFO special file)

In the example, - indicates a regular file.

So everybody else finds exactly the same as I do.

I especially liked Spacecadet's "Google for Dummies". Par for this course, dummy.

[darmstadt]

And I forgot, there is now a port of Solaris to big iron...

[Platypus]

AIX/370 which was AIX running on big IBM iron...

Good Lord! You live and learn!

I've been around UNIX for 20+ years, but never mainframe stuff.

[darmstadt]

If it's on a mainframe, will it be AIX running? I doubt it. Check with uname -a

When you're talking about mainframes you need to be a little bit more specific and with IBM mainframes especially so.

First off there is zOS (which was the first proprietory OS to be certified as a full UNIX system strangely enough) which runs a UNIX under the covers as it were. This is commonly referred to as either USS (Unix System Services) or OMVS (Open MVS)

Then there is zVM which doesn't really have an underlying UNIX as such its origins are from the same systems as UNIX came from and shares many traits such as long line commands sometimes. A number of UNIX tools have been ported and one of its filesystems is very similiar to UNIX (BFS - Byte File System)

Then of course there is zLinux which is a pretty much UNIX type system...nuff said

And many years ago I had the pleasure of working on AIX/370 which was AIX running on big IBM iron...

[Platypus]

well all I can say is that AIX was always a extremely strange version of UNIX. Spent most of my time (my UNI days that is) on SunOS or Solaris.

But I am sure that is a newsgroup of forum for it somewhere...

If it's on a mainframe, will it be AIX running? I doubt it. Check with uname -a

[darmstadt]

Well I just logged onto one of my zOS 1.9 systems and using both omvs and ish couldn't find any but:

The first character indicates whether this is a file or directory.

* - for a regular file (binary or text)
* c for a character special file
* d for a directory
* e for an external link
* l for a symbolic link
* p for a named pipe (FIFO special file)

In the example, - indicates a regular file.

[Ardesco]

"ls -l" on an IBM mainframe unix comes up with "e" in the directory flag for some files, that seem to be some kind of links. Anyone know what the "e" means?

PS yes I have googled, and asked the guy next to me.

never heard of an e it must be said. The usual ones you see are directory (d), and symbolic link (l).

List of some here:

http://www.tech-faq.com/unix-file-permissions.shtml

I'm afraid it isn't too much help, but will hopefully put you on the right track.

[lilelvis2000]

well all I can say is that AIX was always a extremely strange version of UNIX. Spent most of my time (my UNI days that is) on SunOS or Solaris.

But I am sure that is a newsgroup of forum for it somewhere...

[expat]

http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infoce...ixcmds3/ls.htm

I think it means the file/folder is encrypted. But I'm only guessing. Check the link above.

Well, I'd guess that too. But in the page that you both found (which I found too) it says

The mode displayed with the -e and -l flags is interpreted as follows:

If the first character is:

d The entry is a directory.
b The entry is a block special file.
c The entry is a character special file.
l The entry is a symbolic link, and either the -N flag was specified or the symbolic link did not point to an existing file.
p The entry is a first-in, first-out (FIFO) special file.
s The entry is a local socket.
- The entry is an ordinary file.

The""E" for Extended Attribute or "e" for encrypted is in the 10th position (not standard unix ls) and then only with the -U flag.

[lilelvis2000]

http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infoce...ixcmds3/ls.htm

I think it means the file/folder is encrypted. But I'm only guessing. Check the link above.

[expat]

http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infoce...ixcmds3/ls.htm

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...G=Search&meta=

took me about 10 seconds to find it with google
try this http://www.amazon.com/Google-Dummies.../dp/0764544209

Pardon my ignorance: I came up with that too, but it does not seem to me to tell me anything about an "e" in the directory flag, i.e. the first flag in the listing. It does tell me about using -U to get an E or e in the new 10th position, but that is not what I get.

I will admit that 10 seconds is a pretty good time to not anwer my question it took me a bit longer to not answer my question!

[Spacecadet]

http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infoce...ixcmds3/ls.htm

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...G=Search&meta=

took me about 10 seconds to find it with google
try this http://www.amazon.com/Google-Dummies.../dp/0764544209