Re: Pearl
try coreftp - allows you to edit in place (OK it downloads & uploads but it sort of seems like it works in place) you can select your own editor (I use tsweb or crimson).
its easy. no more vi.
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Guest repliedRe: Pearl
She's a singer isn't she .........
what else would you expect from a mainframe dino 0]
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Guest repliedRe: vi
> My son actually loves it.
fiddle - no joke here - but you really need to do something about it! Show your son some proper editors.
Personally i am a long time (12 years) user of Norton Commander that has everything I need in the shell - win32 native rewrite (brilliant!) is here: www.rarsoft.com/far_manager.htm
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Guest repliedRe: vi
There's always Wordstar in non document mode....
control K B control K K.... etc. etc.
I can't believe I used to know all that stuff....
And the wonderful General Automation line editor...
@1/5,p to print out lines 1 to 5...
Ideal for a real teletype, not a glass one.
Aaaah, dear dead days beyond recall (thankfully).
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Guest repliedRe: vi
> switch between insert and command modes
I used vi some years ago and found it incredibly frustrating. For any serious work I'd ftp the file from the unix box to windoze and use my own favourite editor (Kedit - works like xedit on CMS) then ftp it back after.
I was told that vi was designed originally for glass teletypes and similar crippled hardware which have few if any standards for cursor movement etc. My son actually loves it.
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Guest repliedvi
Yes the VAX VMS editor was so much better.
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Guest repliedvi would take lifetime to learn - i am waiting for memoires of that guy from Sun who left recently (he is responsible for VI) to confirm my hard believe that he was stoned whenhe came up with concept to switch between insert and command modes :lol
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Guest repliedYou might also want to use an IDE. I like OptiPerl (www.xarka.com). Runs on Windows, but you can can save to Unix (built-in FTP), and the debugger allows you to step through your code, inspect variables etc, from your Windows workstation even when the script resides on a Unix server. Also higlights syntax errors as you're typing which is very useful.
Perl really is platform generic, so it doesn't matter if you learn on Windows or Unix, unless you need to come up to speed with vi or some other Unix editor.
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Guest repliedMordac/swamp,
thanks for those. The website looks good, and the Lama book it is.
Alf,
sorry....don't do windoze. Unix is the future.
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Guest repliedstart running scripts on Windows - running things on unix has got lots of gotchas like not using windows text file format, unbuffering output for Apache or it is not happy etc.
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Guest repliedFrom O'Reilly:
Learning Perl
Programming Perl
Perl Cookbook
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Guest started a topic Anyone for Perl?Anyone for Perl?
Any of you guys know a good book on Perl?
I can shell script to some extent, but will shortly need to get involved with Perl. I'm not a programmer (never done C and all that), so need something from the ground up.Tags: None
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