Just received my settlement pack

[webberg]

Graham I am surprised you have not heard of forward tax, suggest you ask Tom to tell you. It is in HMRC manual and is an additional 1% applied to settlement TTP to cover as HMRC say "additional risk".

It's not a tax.

It's interest on late payment.

[Delendog]

Are you sure?

EM6250 - Enquiry Manual - HMRC internal manual - GOV.UK

[Iter]

Are you sure?

[Delendog]

Maybe your terminology is what’s confused him[emoji6]

As Webberg said the TTP interest is actually 4.25% of the amount agreed to settle over the agreed time( not 1%). That is separate to the 3.25 % they would have already added to previous open years from each respective tax year due date.

TTP interest is the current 3.25% late payment interest + the 1% forward interest = 4.25% total.

[Iter]

Just received my settlement pack

Maybe your terminology is what’s confused him[emoji6]

As Webberg said the TTP interest is actually 4.25% of the amount agreed to settle over the agreed time( not 1%). That is separate to the 3.25 % they would have already added to previous open years from each respective tax year due date.

[Delendog]

I've never heard of forward tax.

I suspect that this is interest calculated at 4.25% on unpaid instalments from the date of settlement to date of payment.

Graham I am surprised you have not heard of forward tax, suggest you ask Tom to tell you. It is in HMRC manual and is an additional 1% applied to settlement TTP to cover as HMRC say "additional risk".

[webberg]

I've never heard of forward tax.

I suspect that this is interest calculated at 4.25% on unpaid instalments from the date of settlement to date of payment.

[Delendog]

Apologies for basic questions are I'm ignorant but what would count as 'late'? Late because it's after 5th April of late because I didn't pay it when it was earned ie back in 2015?

the late payment interest is applied for settlement to open years from the tax year until the settlement date. Then if you need TTP it is applied for the future period of the TTP (+1% forward interest) - but then also includes open and closed years.

[Doggysoft]

Forward tax should only apply to the tax on TTP arrangements. Late payment tax is currently 3.25% - TTP adds 1% to this for the period of the TTP.

Apologies for basic questions are I'm ignorant but what would count as 'late'? Late because it's after 5th April of late because I didn't pay it when it was earned ie back in 2015?

[Delendog]

Precursor: I phoned up the HMRC helpline for answers but she couldn't give me any help as she didn't know.

Some things that stand out on my pack:

They've calculated in interested for income tax (understand that) but then they've added something called Forward Tax. My wife had only messaged me the front two pages so I don't know if it goes into detail explaining what it is but they don't on the front two pages and the lady on the phone didn't know either. If I was to guess I'd have guessed it is to cover interest for the period of the installments they've suggested.

Also, they mention 'not letting them if I intend to release the loans' and 'if I intend to release the loans to let them know immediately' without explaining why.

Forward tax should only apply to the tax on TTP arrangements. Late payment tax is currently 3.25% - TTP adds 1% to this for the period of the TTP.

[Doggysoft]

Precursor: I phoned up the HMRC helpline for answers but she couldn't give me any help as she didn't know.

Some things that stand out on my pack:

They've calculated in interested for income tax (understand that) but then they've added something called Forward Tax. My wife had only messaged me the front two pages so I don't know if it goes into detail explaining what it is but they don't on the front two pages and the lady on the phone didn't know either. If I was to guess I'd have guessed it is to cover interest for the period of the installments they've suggested.

Also, they mention 'not letting them if I intend to release the loans' and 'if I intend to release the loans to let them know immediately' without explaining why.