This is a sister thread to the "Ramsay defeated" header and is an attempt to bring together tax case references and views on each subject rather than have them scattered.
http://www.tribunals.gov.uk/financea...ice-v-HMRC.pdf
An UTT decision. The details are complicated and not directly relevant to many contractor loan/ebt/offshore schemes BUT the application of the Ramsay principle is. See para 64 onwards.
It's also interesting that the schemes in question had around 40 participants but HMRC choose a well known name to bring to Court no doubt hoping that the resultant publicity would make more impact.
This is a decision that I suspect will go further and is mired in procedural nonsense about whether an appeal can be made etc, but focus on the Ramsay stuff.
The "bad" news here in any read across for a contractor situation is the placing of the various documents and circular money flows in the context of a scheme which had the aim of generating a tax loss.
The "good" news is that the scheme was wholly artificial and had no commercial purpose. The Court accepted that the loan (on unusually generous terms) was not real ONLY because it was so closely linked with another transaction (sale of option) and the lender was a connected entity. In the EBT/loan contractor schemes I think this is legally not the case.
As always, do not read ONE decision and decide that you are safe/unsafe. You have to take into account the whole range of cases and try to extract themes because you will never get an exact match to your circumstances until your case reaches a Court.
- Visitors can check out the Forum FAQ by clicking this link. You have to register before you can post: click the REGISTER link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. View our Forum Privacy Policy.
- Want to receive the latest contracting news and advice straight to your inbox? Sign up to the ContractorUK newsletter here. Every sign up will also be entered into a draw to WIN £100 Amazon vouchers!
Reply to: Ramsay approved
Collapse
You are not logged in or you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:
- You are not logged in. If you are already registered, fill in the form below to log in, or follow the "Sign Up" link to register a new account.
- You may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
- If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.
Logging in...
Previously on "Ramsay approved"
Collapse
- Home
- News & Features
- First Timers
- IR35 / S660 / BN66
- Employee Benefit Trusts
- Agency Workers Regulations
- MSC Legislation
- Limited Companies
- Dividends
- Umbrella Company
- VAT / Flat Rate VAT
- Job News & Guides
- Money News & Guides
- Guide to Contracts
- Successful Contracting
- Contracting Overseas
- Contractor Calculators
- MVL
- Contractor Expenses
Advertisers
Contractor Services
CUK News
- Labour’s plan to regulate umbrella companies: a closer look Today 09:24
- When HMRC misses an FTT deadline but still wins another CJRS case Yesterday 09:20
- How 15% employer NICs will sting the umbrella company market Nov 19 09:16
- Contracting Awards 2024 hails 19 firms as best of the best Nov 18 09:13
- How to answer at interview, ‘What’s your greatest weakness?’ Nov 14 09:59
- Business Asset Disposal Relief changes in April 2025: Q&A Nov 13 09:37
- How debt transfer rules will hit umbrella companies in 2026 Nov 12 09:28
- IT contractor demand floundering despite Autumn Budget 2024 Nov 11 09:30
- An IR35 bill of £19m for National Resources Wales may be just the tip of its iceberg Nov 7 09:20
- Micro-entity accounts: Overview, and how to file with HMRC Nov 6 09:27