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Previously on "Do young people not read long emails any more?"
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Originally posted by suityou01 View PostTotally this. Laziness is endemic. One day I will go postal.
No seriously, I agree 100% with you Suity (I did after all start this thread).
But there is another side to this - One can also be lazy in drafting and sending emails, i.e. not making the effort to keep the email concise and to the point and to target it only at people who need to read it or be aware of it now.
But then if you're too strict on the targetting, someone you omitted to CC complains that you're keeping them out of the loop and could you kindly keep them informed in future.
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Originally posted by OwlHoot View PostDo young people not read long emails any more?
where by long I ... [endless waffle]
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Originally posted by suityou01 View PostLazy arsed, slack jawed, sloping shouldered, column dodging, layabout, oxygen thief, stuffed suit, waste of space, lefty liberal, Pringle jumper wearing, Saturday golfing, passat driving, greasy pole climbing, inert, seat warming, should be a civil servant, or an mep, probably in management time waster.
I read them. And act on them. I call it doing my job.
HTH.
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Originally posted by Zero Liability View PostWith the amount of arse-covering that people need to engage in nowadays, it's no surprise.
Some people are just lazy with email, though. That does tick me off.
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Originally posted by tomtomagain View PostReason most people don't read email is because email is broken.
In my last corporate job I received easily more than 100 per day.
You can't read them, never mind digest and act on all that information.
I read them. And act on them. I call it doing my job.
HTH.
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With the amount of arse-covering that people need to engage in nowadays, it's no surprise.
Some people are just lazy with email, though. That does tick me off.
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Reason most people don't read email is because email is broken.
In my last corporate job I received easily more than 100 per day.
You can't read them, never mind digest and act on all that information.
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I do one of 3 things:
- 1-3 word emails
- missives that would make a Thomas Mann book look short but all in English so no-one reads them anyway
- lots of pictures, that seems to work
Its a shame Germans know what RTFM means otherwise that would be in a lot of my mails
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Owly, you are not alone. The other day I sent a long email, it contained only the facts. You know the kind of thing, this the the progress to date, these are the blockers, these are the decisions I am chasing, etc etc.
I also clearly stated the scope of work had changed, as in got much larger and more complex, and clearly asked for some additional resource in terms of testers and a BA.
And I was very clear that owing to the current state of things, ie having so many decisions outstanding, and unanswered questions it was not possible to provide an end date until we got some answers.
I sheet you not, 24 hours later the PM came up to me and asked how much longer it was going to take.
Was the email read? Was it being deliberately ignored?
No fooking idea, but the needless interruption didn't go down to well as I was balls deep in trying to solve these issues at the time, so having to pull my head out of what I was doing and field questions I had already answered in my email made me feel like murdering a kitten.
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Originally posted by mudskipper View PostEmu on Wheels - got a ring to it - perhaps a new framework?
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Originally posted by vetran View PostMost definitely this for half the team! Unfortunately firing half of them isn't an option. Shaming them into doing something seems to work better than trusting them to do it.
Tried the agile style projects , not sure if its the lack of skill of the participants but they normally end up as an Emu with wheels when we wanted a table.
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