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[Mich the Tester]

I like this one: 1989 TWR XJRS Coupe - Gallery Part 1

Obvously some schoolboy humour was applied when writing the captions;

'Woods are all gone'

'Interior worn and wet'

'Out she comes...'

'One of those 'before' shots!'

'Rear, fully stripped'

[darmstadt]

These chaps modernise the saloons and do a fine job (I'm told). My only very minor quibble would be the choice of wheels, but that's easily solved. Oh, and the price; 'less than a new 7 series'. Hmm, yes, that's still quite a lot.

The KWE K12 Jaguar

I like this one: 1989 TWR XJRS Coupe - Gallery Part 1

Once belonging to Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones this car is now being fully restored. In poor bodily shape this car will have a full body strip, shotblast and lots of welding - but then it has lots of history!

[Mich the Tester]

Quite correct. I think if I lived in the UK I would seriously look at buying something like you're looking at. It still has enough power and speed yet fuel consumption is pretty good. However, eveyr red blooded male needs a bit of excitement to get the juices flowing and something like this for the weekend would do the trick: Welcome to Eagle - Eagle E-Types, The Eagle Speedster and the Low Drag GT which I think are really rather good

These chaps modernise the saloons and do a fine job (I'm told). My only very minor quibble would be the choice of wheels, but that's easily solved. Oh, and the price; 'less than a new 7 series'. Hmm, yes, that's still quite a lot.

The KWE K12 Jaguar

[darmstadt]

I once had a Daimler Double 6 and living in the environs of East london at the time, was seen as a posh gangsters motor. Took ages filling it up and not very long in emptying it

[milanbenes]

Jayzuz,

starting at 135k gbp and going up to 700k gbp

hmm, I'll stick to me XKR100 or Virage for 40k eur

Milan.

[Mich the Tester]

yeah I know what you mean

I was talking to another friend about trying to spot the cars which are going to be
future classics and winners, he suggested the spread bet of:

XKR
DB7
Virage

buy the three and lock them away


what do you, and infact everyone's invited to have a go here, what cars which are relatively cheap now,
eg, old XJS's old XKR's, Maserati GT's etc anything upto 25k euro, which ones are going to be the
winners in the next 20 years ?

Milan.

Your mate's only listed sports cars. Take a look at the saloon cars. XJ series I, II and III, and now Jaguar fans are increasingly enthousiastic about the x300 as it's the last Jag with the classic straight 6 and v12 engines. x300 has now probably hit rock bottom prices and is expected to rise. 'R' or Daimler versions are most in demand.

[darmstadt]

Very nice piece of kit but only worth buying in Germany where you can actually use the speed.

Quite correct. I think if I lived in the UK I would seriously look at buying something like you're looking at. It still has enough power and speed yet fuel consumption is pretty good. However, eveyr red blooded male needs a bit of excitement to get the juices flowing and something like this for the weekend would do the trick: Welcome to Eagle - Eagle E-Types, The Eagle Speedster and the Low Drag GT which I think are really rather good

[milanbenes]

yeah I know what you mean

I was talking to another friend about trying to spot the cars which are going to be
future classics and winners, he suggested the spread bet of:

XKR
DB7
Virage

buy the three and lock them away


what do you, and infact everyone's invited to have a go here, what cars which are relatively cheap now,
eg, old XJS's old XKR's, Maserati GT's etc anything upto 25k euro, which ones are going to be the
winners in the next 20 years ?

Milan.

[Mich the Tester]

precisely

A friend bought a 1975 XJ12C and has had it nuts and bolts restored, including fitting disc brakes and abs etc. Same chap with the 650i actually.

I was thinking about beginning my collection with an XKR100, what say thee to one of those ?

Milan.

I love the old XJs, especially the series III that Pininfarina very subtly improved by shaving off a cm here and adding a millimetre there, if you can find one that will actually start each day; that's why I have the x300 type Daimler instead. Solid engine, half decent electrics and nearly as good looking as the older XJ.

But I did look for an XK or XKR; what I noticed was that a lot of them have been badly cared for, with mucky interiors and scruffy seats, which suggests they haven't been well maintained. Strange really that people buy a dream car and then treat it like dirt.

[milanbenes]

precisely

A friend bought a 1975 XJ12C and has had it nuts and bolts restored, including fitting disc brakes and abs etc. Same chap with the 650i actually.

I was thinking about beginning my collection with an XKR100, what say thee to one of those ?

Milan.

[Mich the Tester]

oh thank you

yeah and that was my point, at this level of car, what FrankfurtamMain is talking about, does fuel consumption really matter, in that market ?

Milan.

No, as long as it's fun.

[milanbenes]

I like a car that burns lots of petrol because it's a business cost so it lowers my income tax in an enjoyable way.

oh thank you

yeah and that was my point, at this level of car, what FrankfurtamMain is talking about, does fuel consumption really matter, in that market ?

Milan.

[Mich the Tester]

yo Mich,

can you, would you perhaps, be so kind as to explain that for the hard of hearing

ta

Milan.

I like a car that burns lots of petrol because it's a business cost so it lowers my income tax in an enjoyable way.

[milanbenes]

It matters to me. I want it to use a lot of fuel. I have a choice. My business can buy petrol and pay 75% tax at the pump, or my business can pay me a salary over which I pay 52% or dividend over which I pay 25%. If I buy lots of petrol, I get some fun in return; if I don't then I have to hand over great chunks of money for not much in return. That's why I like fuel guzzling cars; they reduce my income tax. I also like old cars, because the income tax is based on trade value instead of new price. If I were to buy a 14 year old XJ I'd have an extra 20k (25% of new price which in NL is about 50% tax already) slapped on my income and taxed at 52%. With a 15 year old XJ I get 35% of the trade value slapped on my income and end up paying about 2k more income tax instead of 11k.

Believe me, I hate giving more money to politicians, but if I have to then I want to do it in an enjoyable way.

yo Mich,

can you, would you perhaps, be so kind as to explain that for the hard of hearing

ta

Milan.

[sasguru]

Very nice piece of kit but only worth buying in Germany where you can actually use the speed.