• Visitors can check out the Forum FAQ by clicking this link. You have to register before you can post: click the REGISTER link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. View our Forum Privacy Policy.
  • Want to receive the latest contracting news and advice straight to your inbox? Sign up to the ContractorUK newsletter here. Every sign up will also be entered into a draw to WIN £100 Amazon vouchers!

You are not logged in or you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:

  • You are not logged in. If you are already registered, fill in the form below to log in, or follow the "Sign Up" link to register a new account.
  • You may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
  • If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.

Previously on "Money system officially reversed by BoE"

Collapse

  • SpontaneousOrder
    replied
    Originally posted by TykeMerc View Post
    May I point out that ever since banking was invented and as a result the unit of exchange (or money as we call it) became a token it's ALWAYS been on an IOU basis. Nowt new here
    To be fair, most people presume that when you borrow 200 grand for a mortgage, the bank actually lends you 200k that existed in reserves or deposits of some kind. The idea that they just key into existence 200k that didn't exist until you borrowed it, and you owe it back with interest, is unimaginable to many (or I guess it;s more accurate to say that they lend out the same 200k simultaneously to many people, and you pay it back with interest. But it amounts to the same thing).

    Leave a comment:


  • TykeMerc
    replied
    May I point out that ever since banking was invented and as a result the unit of exchange (or money as we call it) became a token it's ALWAYS been on an IOU basis. Nowt new here

    Leave a comment:


  • SpontaneousOrder
    replied
    Originally posted by tomtomagain View Post
    So there can only ever be 20M.

    So what happens as the number of people using them increases? What happens to the "value" of each coin? It enters a deflationary spiral.
    you mean inflationary? (i can only assume you're referring to price inflation rather than inflation of the money supply, seeing as the 'physical' supply is fixed).
    Worth noting too that each bit coin is massively divisible, which means that there shouldn't be a shortage of currency - it just gets more valuable as it's adopted more.

    Leave a comment:


  • SpontaneousOrder
    replied
    Originally posted by Peoplesoft bloke View Post
    Until there isn't.
    I'm not a cryptographer, but supposedly the cryptography is sound.

    Leave a comment:


  • SpontaneousOrder
    replied
    Originally posted by tomtomagain View Post
    Yeah 'cos Bit Coins are safe.

    But seriously fixed currencies ( such as gold backed paper ) suffer from deflation. That's why they were all ditched.
    There's nothing wrong with deflation. In fact we should really be enjoying a deflationary monetary paradigm - everything (with some exceptions like food perhaps) should be getting cheaper as goods and services are developed more efficiently.

    Leave a comment:


  • Peoplesoft bloke
    replied
    Originally posted by SpontaneousOrder View Post
    No. There is a maximum number of BTC that can exist. About 20 million.
    Until there isn't.

    Leave a comment:


  • darmstadt
    replied
    Originally posted by doodab View Post
    Never mind bitcoins. Hobnobs are the future.
    I think you're right there, I've noticed them in Germany and France now. I think Digestives are also making a bid for future currency status as well, presumably the chocolate ones are worth more

    Leave a comment:


  • tomtomagain
    replied
    Originally posted by SpontaneousOrder View Post
    No. There is a maximum number of BTC that can exist. About 20 million.

    So there can only ever be 20M.

    So what happens as the number of people using them increases? What happens to the "value" of each coin? It enters a deflationary spiral.

    Leave a comment:


  • tomtomagain
    replied
    Originally posted by SunnyInHades View Post
    I'm increasing using Bitcoin and other crypto currencies.

    Try quantitative easing those BOE.

    Yeah 'cos Bit Coins are safe.

    But seriously fixed currencies ( such as gold backed paper ) suffer from deflation. That's why they were all ditched.

    Leave a comment:


  • doodab
    replied
    Never mind bitcoins. Hobnobs are the future.

    Leave a comment:


  • oracleslave
    replied
    Originally posted by ThomasSoerensen View Post
    I think you need to un-flood your eco-shed. (to coin a phrase)
    The curtains are so crusty they're waterproof.

    Leave a comment:


  • ThomasSoerensen
    replied
    Originally posted by sasguru View Post
    Why post such a pile of obviousity (to coin a phrase).
    I think you need to un-flood your eco-shed. (to coin a phrase)

    Leave a comment:


  • sasguru
    replied
    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
    You realise he didn't write the article?
    Why post such a pile of obviousity (to coin a phrase).

    Leave a comment:


  • MicrosoftBob
    replied
    Originally posted by SpontaneousOrder View Post
    No. There is a maximum number of BTC that be stolen by hackers or hidden by their exchanges. About 20 million.
    FTFY

    Leave a comment:


  • SpontaneousOrder
    replied
    Originally posted by ThomasSoerensen View Post
    Aren't the miners doing that?
    No. There is a maximum number of BTC that can exist. About 20 million.

    Leave a comment:

Working...
X