Reply to: Syrian Jihadis

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

Qatar seems to be the place that Taliban leadership retire to, that should tell you everything you need to know

True say - I was thinking the UAE has bought them off quite effectively. There is no sign of terrorism in that country at all. Must be a costly deal.

[MicrosoftBob]

Indeed - but it is them who are funding the ideology, spread and destruction of the terrorists. So perhaps we should have some backbone when it comes to dealing with these countries?

Also interesting to see that UAE and Qatar have not been affected by the terrorism in the slightest even though they have nightclubs, bars, alcohol and a pro western government. It's obvious there has been some buying off here and so they are in effect funding the terrorists (though it is more of a bribe than an ideological/political motive).

Qatar seems to be the place that Taliban leadership retire to, that should tell you everything you need to know

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

en masse

cheers

[DirtyDog]

The same guys who are in Iraq killing people on mass...

en masse

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

Sure. But I don't think it'll happen anytime soon. After Bin-Laden was swimming with the fishes everyone was still happy to be in Afghanistan for "women's rights" and all that bulltulip, yet noone want's to invade the Saudis for having one of the worst human right's records in the world.

I would never advocate invasion, but extreme pressure is required. Next door in Iran women are allowed to work, drive, take up political positions. The largest Jewish population outside of Israel in the middle east is in Iran - yet they are backwards and Saudi are our chums. Doesn't make sense really does it?

[SpontaneousOrder]

Indeed - but it is them who are funding the ideology, spread and destruction of the terrorists. So perhaps we should have some backbone when it comes to dealing with these countries?

Also interesting to see that UAE and Qatar have not been affected by the terrorism in the slightest even though they have nightclubs, bars, alcohol and a pro western government. It's obvious there has been some buying off here and so they are in effect funding the terrorists (though it is more of a bribe than an ideological/political motive).

Sure. But I don't think it'll happen anytime soon. After Bin-Laden was swimming with the fishes everyone was still happy to be in Afghanistan for "women's rights" and all that bulltulip, yet noone want's to invade the Saudis for having one of the worst human right's records in the world.

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

Except we're best petro-dollar buddies with those groups. Obviously picking up the odd straggler at the airport is enough to distract the general population from the selling of f16's/eurofighters/tear gas to the saudis.

Indeed - but it is them who are funding the ideology, spread and destruction of the terrorists. So perhaps we should have some backbone when it comes to dealing with these countries?

Also interesting to see that UAE and Qatar have not been affected by the terrorism in the slightest even though they have nightclubs, bars, alcohol and a pro western government. It's obvious there has been some buying off here and so they are in effect funding the terrorists (though it is more of a bribe than an ideological/political motive).

[SpontaneousOrder]

Anything we can do to weaken the Al-Qaeda/Saudi/Qatar terrorist ring is good in my point of view.

Except we're best petro-dollar buddies with those groups. Obviously picking up the odd straggler at the airport is enough to distract the general population from the selling of f16's/eurofighters/tear gas to the saudis.

[Paddy]

Can I expect to be on the NSA's radar after visiting your website Paddy?

Yes

[Gittins Gal]

It is only a ‘war’ because it is in the interests of some politicians to call it that. On the same edict one could have called the NI troubles a war. The Syrian ‘war’ is really Islamic terrorism on a massive scale to remove Christians, Jews, and Muslims with differing views. This did not happen in Spanish Civil War.

Can I expect to be on the NSA's radar after visiting your website Paddy?

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

It is only a ‘war’ because it is in the interests of some politicians to call it that. On the same edict one could have called the NI troubles a war. The Syrian ‘war’ is really Islamic terrorism on a massive scale to remove Christians, Jews, and Muslims with differing views. This did not happen in Spanish Civil War.

Well said - I have been to Syria on tourism (yes it was an awesome tourist location before all the troubles). You would hear the Church bells ringing on a Sunday, the call to prayer throughout the day and had a wide range of sects, beliefs and practices. These "Jihadis" are looking to wipe out anybody who does not adopt their belief system. The same guys who are in Iraq killing people on mass and now starting bombs in Lebanon, Egypt and elsewhere. The same guys who are funded by "our pals" the Saudis who throw Billions of pounds at this mass terrorism.

[Paddy]

I'm not going to provide a link to this but it's been all over the press for the past few days.

These 2 girls who were arrested at Heathrow on (I think) some kind of pretext of prevention of terrorism (they were on their way to Syria).

How, exactly, does that work? They were (foolishly IMO) going to another sovereign nation to take part in a conflict that has nothing to do with this country. So how does that justify their arrest? Did we used to arrest mercenaries en route to Angola?

One of them had £7k stuffed down her undies. Even that's not an offence since according to HMRC you don't have to declare any cash when leaving the UK under the value of 10k Euros, or equivalent.

Surely if you want to go and fight someone else's war (and we're not actively involved in that war) then that's up to you? I mean, what about all those freedom fighters who went to fight in the Spanish Civil War?

Food for thought, or not? I'd be happy for somebody to point out something glaringly obvious that I've missed.

It is only a ‘war’ because it is in the interests of some politicians to call it that. On the same edict one could have called the NI troubles a war. The Syrian ‘war’ is really Islamic terrorism on a massive scale to remove Christians, Jews, and Muslims with differing views. This did not happen in Spanish Civil War.

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

I'm not going to provide a link to this but it's been all over the press for the past few days.

These 2 girls who were arrested at Heathrow on (I think) some kind of pretext of prevention of terrorism (they were on their way to Syria).

How, exactly, does that work? They were (foolishly IMO) going to another sovereign nation to take part in a conflict that has nothing to do with this country. So how does that justify their arrest? Did we used to arrest mercenaries en route to Angola?

One of them had £7k stuffed down her undies. Even that's not an offence since according to HMRC you don't have to declare any cash when leaving the UK under the value of 10k Euros, or equivalent.

Surely if you want to go and fight someone else's war (and we're not actively involved in that war) then that's up to you? I mean, what about all those freedom fighters who went to fight in the Spanish Civil War?

Food for thought, or not? I'd be happy for somebody to point out something glaringly obvious that I've missed.

Anything we can do to weaken the Al-Qaeda/Saudi/Qatar terrorist ring is good in my point of view. The money is going to fund barbaric people who eat the livers and organs of others. It is time the west supported the real fighters of terrorism - Syria/Iran/Iraq.

[DirtyDog]

I note our friend Liddlejohn in his column today is citing examples of a high street bank refusing to hand a man £7k from his current account unless he were to provide written evidence of the purpose to which it was to be put. Anti money laundering measures apparently. Local branch staff misunderstanding the guidelines from HSBC central office apparently

FTFY

[DirtyDog]

There was an interesting point on the BBC News website recently - the British government is encouraging the rebels, so if people from the UK go there to take part in the conflict on the side of the rebels, they are following the official government policy.

Yet when they return (or before they leave), they get treated as terrorists.