Reply to: One of my pet hates about contracting

[suityou01]

Cool. You can expect a large contingent of Cloggie contractors moving across the border at this rate. Current Dutch government, elected on a promise of getting the economy going again through liberalising business laws are going on a complete bender of regulating and taxing every fart they can find that hasn't already been regulated three times over and our wonderful version of IR35 is about to become a lot more IR35-ish, although happily it's been delayed for a year because the Tax office programmers are too tulipe to get the software ready.

Nein :nazi:

[Mich the Tester]

Nope. In my case I submit an invoice to the company, they pay it into my bank account, I give all my paperwork to my accountant, they submit it to the Finanzamt, they send me a tax bill, I pay it. Actually I pay tax in advance per quarter at a rate which I agree with the Finanzamt and monthly for the equivalent for VAT (MwST) and come year end I either owe them or they owe me. Of course there are some other details but nothing quite so archaic or stupid as IR35. So basically in the long run all the money is mine except taxes (and some social contributions,) not need for salaries or dividends or silly little rules...Of course if you're a programmer or BA or PM then its a bit different as you need to pay other taxes, the difference between Freiberfulich and Selbständig (Gewerblich) and then you have GmBH and GBR and KG and...but still no IR35 which would screw me as I've been here nearly 4 years and still claim everything...

Cool. You can expect a large contingent of Cloggie contractors moving across the border at this rate. Current Dutch government, elected on a promise of getting the economy going again through liberalising business laws are going on a complete bender of regulating and taxing every fart they can find that hasn't already been regulated three times over and our wonderful version of IR35 is about to become a lot more IR35-ish, although happily it's been delayed for a year because the Tax office programmers are too tulipe to get the software ready.

[darmstadt]

Nope, but Deutschland probably has an equivalent just as the rest of Europe. Aarrrgggh!!

Nope. In my case I submit an invoice to the company, they pay it into my bank account, I give all my paperwork to my accountant, they submit it to the Finanzamt, they send me a tax bill, I pay it. Actually I pay tax in advance per quarter at a rate which I agree with the Finanzamt and monthly for the equivalent for VAT (MwST) and come year end I either owe them or they owe me. Of course there are some other details but nothing quite so archaic or stupid as IR35. So basically in the long run all the money is mine except taxes (and some social contributions,) not need for salaries or dividends or silly little rules...Of course if you're a programmer or BA or PM then its a bit different as you need to pay other taxes, the difference between Freiberfulich and Selbständig (Gewerblich) and then you have GmBH and GBR and KG and...but still no IR35 which would screw me as I've been here nearly 4 years and still claim everything...

[Mich the Tester]

IR35 doesn't apply in Germany. Clearly if you were a permie you'd not be paying UK NI.

Nope, but Deutschland probably has an equivalent just as the rest of Europe. Aarrrgggh!!

[doodab]

IR35 doesn't apply in Germany. Clearly if you were a permie you'd not be paying UK NI.

[TheFaQQer]

It would be better if they let me go and then got me back in for the odd day here and there now. I'll suggest that to them.

FFS - it's not a case of "suggesting", any more than you "ask for" holiday time off.

Tell them that you are unavailable since there is no work, and don't work.

[TheFaQQer]

Maybe you should put the new coversheet on all the TPS reports before they go out.

So if you could go ahead and try to remember to do that from now on, that'd be great.

You did get the memo, didn't you?

[mudskipper]

Never done one - I believe that one of the permies at ClientCo fills them out on my behalf.

[suityou01]

Very easily. Usually at the point where a project finishes and they find something else for you to work on. That's where it starts to look like they have an obligation to provide you with work and you have an obligation to do it.

Hang on, this is in General specifically! Bedwetter!!!

It would be better if they let me go and then got me back in for the odd day here and there now. I'll suggest that to them.

[Bunk]

That's well overdue now.

So your IR35 position can flip mid contact?

Very easily. Usually at the point where a project finishes and they find something else for you to work on. That's where it starts to look like they have an obligation to provide you with work and you have an obligation to do it.

Hang on, this is in General specifically! Bedwetter!!!

[suityou01]

Go home?

Would help your IR35 position.

That's well overdue now.

So your IR35 position can flip mid contact?

[Mich the Tester]

Filling in complicated timesheets is a pain in the arse, but as long as it's done in billable time it's a lucrative pain in the arse.

Keep calm and invoice!

[alreadypacked]

Did I work with you recently?

Maybe

[MyUserName]

Go home?

Would help your IR35 position.

[stek]

Maybe you should put the new coversheet on all the TPS reports before they go out.

So if you could go ahead and try to remember to do that from now on, that'd be great.