Reply to: Proletariat, Parvenu or Prince?

[petergriffin]

a pleb

It is a sign of strength for an agent to admit they are plebs.

[Sysman]

Not what I found. I went for a pretty full set of people and all the cultural stuff except opera, ballet, gigs (too old), and hip hop, and found I could get to either end of the scale by varying the income and savings.

Last question in the Cultural section: Listen to hip-hop/rap

And akshually I do like French rap, so I suppose I lied

[Mich the Tester]

Not what I found. I went for a pretty full set of people and all the cultural stuff except opera, ballet, gigs (too old), and hip hop, and found I could get to either end of the scale by varying the income and savings.

[Sysman]

One of the people involved in the research explained it on the radio - it's your interests and who you hang out with which mainly determines your social class.

The more varied interests you have and the wider variety of people in terms of their occupation you socialise with the higher your class standing will be.

Then comes your income and whether you rent or own.

Not what I found. I went for a pretty full set of people and all the cultural stuff except opera, ballet, gigs (too old), and hip hop, and found I could get to either end of the scale by varying the income and savings.

The fact that renting blanks out the property value fields tells me a lot about the class expectations of those who designed the survey.

[Sysman]

Because I am not into social media or teccie stuff

Although I do use Twitter occasionally for technical crap, I cannot class myself as a Twitter/Facebook user in the sense they probably interpret the answer.

[Sysman]

Easy-peasy; do a bit of exploratory testing with that application and you can be classified as anything you want.

Nick Fitz version: Easy-peasy; read that application's Javascript and you can be classified as anything you want.

Me: Elite, Established Middle class, Working class and Precariat by doing the friends and cultural bit truthfully and trying variables on the housing, income and savings.

That'll be the "What If?" Risk Analysis stuff I've done coming through then.

[Mich the Tester]

Why would anyone take the piss out of inbreds, if that's how they were born?

Well I wouldn't. Just forgive me for staring at their extra fingers.

[OwlHoot]

They'll all die of haemophilia.

PC disclaimer; I should stress I am not taking the piss out of people who happen to suffer from haemophilia, but upper class inbreds.

Why would anyone take the piss out of inbreds, if that's how they were born?

[Mich the Tester]

By nature of you working to earn your crust that would make you one of the working classes in the eyes of the true Elite.

IMHO UK PLC is something like this:

Elite, Working* Rich, Working* average, Working* poor, Underclass

*worked until retirement.

To Paraphrase Nob, Snob, or Slob

After about 2020 there will be two classes; elite (retired with pension) and proletariat (paying for the pensions of aforesaid elite)

[Mich the Tester]

How about someone whose family has owned the same estate for centuries, and is only interested in farming, horses, and dogs?

They'll all die of haemophilia.

PC disclaimer; I should stress I am not taking the piss out of people who happen to suffer from haemophilia, but upper class inbreds.

[OwlHoot]

One of the people involved in the research explained it on the radio - it's your interests and who you hang out with which mainly determines your social class.

The more varied interests you have and the wider variety of people in terms of their occupation you socialise with the higher your class standing will be. ...

How about someone whose family has owned the same estate for centuries, and is only interested in farming, horses, and dogs?

[ZARDOZ]

Because I am not into social media or teccie stuff

By nature of you working to earn your crust that would make you one of the working classes in the eyes of the true Elite.

IMHO UK PLC is something like this:

Elite, Working* Rich, Working* average, Working* poor, Underclass

*worked until retirement.

To Paraphrase Nob, Snob, or Slob

[oracleslave]

Wrong again.

If you don't mix with people in different occupations socially you don't end up being Elite.

Surely there are people that grow richer by the day without having to work that are complete social recluses and don't interact with just about anyone at all?

[SueEllen]

In my mind the Elite would not work, be incredibly rich and socialise with powerful and influencial people. Liking African pottery and eating out at a vegan resturant twice a week are not the same thing.

Wrong again.

If you don't mix with people in different occupations socially you don't end up being Elite.

[SueEllen]

Because I am not into social media or teccie stuff

Wrong.