Reply to: Enemies of the state

[Lucifer Box]

Oh, and warrant cards are now to be issued to civil servants at the CPS, allowing the state to directly detain citizens for the first time since Magna Carta.

And there are those whom inisist our Government has achieved little.

Still, I'm sure if you've done nothing wrong you have nothing to fear. These new powers are to cater for exceptional and unusual circumstances as part of the global war on terror and will be used sparingly, appropriately and only as a matter of last resort. Like if you are a NuLie minister heckled by an 80 year old concentration camp survivor, sorry, terrorist.

[Central-Scrutiniser]

Oh, and warrant cards are now to be issued to civil servants at the CPS, allowing the state to directly detain citizens for the first time since Magna Carta.

And there are those whom inisist our Government has achieved little.

[Lucifer Box]

A good friend of mine is a police officer and until recently worked for one of the Special Operations departments doing surveillance work. This usually involved following people involved in high-value fraud or people trafficking. Nearly all of the police surveillance teams have recently been disbanded and they now form one huge group of officers to be sent to wherever they are needed. As a result my friend and most of his colleagues now spend their time following around people like those listed above, gathering evidence of "subversive activity" such as wearing overcoats in the summer, forgetting their PIN numbers in Tesco or driving within the speed limit and other such heinous crimes. Tssssk

Seems only right and proper. After all, under this government forgetting your password is now punishable by two years in chokey.

I read this article in The Independent this morning and I have to say I empathised greatly with "those who understand what has gone on in Britain have the sense of being in one of those nightmares where you are crying out to warn someone of impending danger, but they cannot hear you."

Even they underplayed it though when talking about the police's unprecedented powers to detain citizens and forcibly take DNA samples. They are still labouring in the mistaken belief that commission of a crime has to be suspected by the arresting officer. Since January of this year any holder of a warrant card can arrest a citizen if the holder "believes it to be necessary". Oh, and warrant cards are now to be issued to civil servants at the CPS, allowing the state to directly detain citizens for the first time since Magna Carta.

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A good friend of mine is a police officer and until recently worked for one of the Special Operations departments doing surveillance work. This usually involved following people involved in high-value fraud or people trafficking. Nearly all of the police surveillance teams have recently been disbanded and they now form one huge group of officers to be sent to wherever they are needed. As a result my friend and most of his colleagues now spend their time following around people like those listed above, gathering evidence of "subversive activity" such as wearing overcoats in the summer, forgetting their PIN numbers in Tesco or driving within the speed limitand other such heinous crimes. Tssssk

Of course. It is, after all, only fair.

I blame IR35.

[supremepods]

Enemies of the state?

Helen John 68, and Sylvia Boyes 62, Brian Haw 56, Walter Wolfgang 82

A good friend of mine is a police officer and until recently worked for one of the Special Operations departments doing surveillance work. This usually involved following people involved in high-value fraud or people trafficking. Nearly all of the police surveillance teams have recently been disbanded and they now form one huge group of officers to be sent to wherever they are needed. As a result my friend and most of his colleagues now spend their time following around people like those listed above, gathering evidence of "subversive activity" such as wearing overcoats in the summer, forgetting their PIN numbers in Tesco or driving within the speed limit and other such heinous crimes. Tssssk

[Purple Dalek]

I don't care which side, as long as the other side has plenty to exterminate.

[Gold Dalek]

Ex-ter-min-ate,ex-ter-min-ate,ex-ter-min-ate,ex-ter-min-ate,ex-ter-min-ate

[Black Dalek]

Yo

Dalek reporting for ex-ter-min-ation duties

EX-TER-MIN-ATE,EX-TER-MIN-ATE,EX-TER-MIN-ATE,EX-TER-MIN-ATE,

[Troll]

Are you with us or against us Troll ?

You would not believe how much I am with you!!

[Central-Scrutiniser]

Are you with us or against us Troll ?

[Troll]

Is this a call to arms then?

Lots of stabbity stab stab stabbings?

[Central-Scrutiniser]

Enemy of the State George Galloway

In October 2003, he was expelled from the Labour Party when a party body ruled that he had brought the party into disrepute over the 2003 invasion of Iraq, when he called the Labour government "Tony Blair's lie machine"

Galloways address to the US Sentate


I told the world that Iraq, contrary to your claims did not have weapons of mass destruction.

I told the world, contrary to your claims, that Iraq had no connection to al-Qaeda.

I told the world, contrary to your claims, that Iraq had no connection to the atrocity on 9/11 2001.

I told the world, contrary to your claims, that the Iraqi people would resist a British and American invasion of their country and that the fall of Baghdad would not be the beginning of the end, but merely the end of the beginning.

Senator, in everything I said about Iraq, I turned out to be right and you turned out to be wrong and 100,000 people paid with their lives; 1600 of them American soldiers sent to their deaths on a pack of lies; 15,000 of them wounded, many of them disabled forever on a pack of lies.

[Central-Scrutiniser]

Enemy of the State Winston Churchill


"If you will not fight for the right,when you can easily win without bloodshed, if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not so costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival.

There may be a worse case.

You may have to fight when there is no chance of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves."

[Central-Scrutiniser]

Enemy of the State Simon Davies London School of Economics


The second invisible change that has occurred in Britain is best expressed by Simon Davies, a fellow at the London School of Economics, who did pioneering work on the ID card scheme and then suffered a wounding onslaught from the Government when it did not agree with his findings.

The worrying thing, he suggests, is that the instinctive sense of personal liberty has been lost in the British people. "We have reached that stage now where we have gone almost as far as it is possible to go in establishing the infrastructures of control and surveillance within an open and free environment," he says. "That architecture only has to work and the citizens only have to become compliant for the Government to have control.

"That compliance is what scares me the most. People are resigned to their fate.

They've bought the Government's arguments for the public good.

There is a generational failure of memory about individual rights. Whenever Government says that some intrusion is necessary in the public interest, an entire generation has no clue how to respond, not even intuitively And that is the great lesson that other countries must learn. The US must never lose sight of its traditions of individual freedom."

Those who understand what has gone on in Britain have the sense of being in one of those nightmares where you are crying out to warn someone of impending danger, but they cannot hear you. And yet I do take some hope from the picnickers of Parliament Square.

May the numbers of these young eccentrics swell and swell over the coming months, for their actions are a sign that the spirit of liberty and dogged defiance are not yet dead in Britain.

[sunnysan]

Wow

Belarus is starting to sound good.