Why why why?

[SimonMac]

If you manage people properly, set expectations properly and document properly all of these things work fantastically well.

WHS (and that pains me to say)

Problem is overview and accountability between off shore and in shore is usually too high a level where Bob just becomes a yes man to save face

[The Spartan]

I have worked with offshore teams before and have found that the savings made offshoring the work are often negated by the time it takes them to do things correctly.

[suityou01]

Why do people think it's a good idea to send things offshore to be built where testing team think testing the system works is beyond their remit. Like expecting developers to think or comunicate with each other is beyond their remit. As well as their BAs being able to provide specifications to the detail that their developers need.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Seriously these people seem to think they are building something for fun, not that actually there are people who want to use this system and it actually has to function in the most basic end to end sense.

Sorry had massive urge to vent. Feel better now.

This is progress. Adapt or die

[MarillionFan]

If you are fed up, go out to the titty bar across the road

I've booked this instead for Thanks Giving

THE US GRANT San Diego Hotel

Maybe there is a titty bar across the road?

[Paddy]

You know nothing.

I'm on my way back to the UK this weekend to do some planning. Back to the US in December then off to India to start hiring in Jan. Cost is important but it's access to resource that's more important. 4 out of my 5 new hires will be in India.

If you are fed up, go out to the titty bar across the road

[MarillionFan]

Such decisions have nothing to do with efficiency. The decision is made by some executive in order to show cost savings. His bonus is based on cost savings. Once he gets his bonus he will bugger off to the next company and he will be far away by the time the cost saving is found to be useless. The board will not admit that they made a mistake and the whole exercise will be claimed a success.


IT these days has little to do with working efficiently and accurately. It is all to do with the pleasing the accountants, creating smoke screens to cover up inefficiencies and keeping the share price up.

You know nothing.

I'm on my way back to the UK this weekend to do some planning. Back to the US in December then off to India to start hiring in Jan. Cost is important but it's access to resource that's more important. 4 out of my 5 new hires will be in India.

[NotSaying]

"If you manage people properly, set expectations properly and document properly all of these things work fantastically well. "

problem here is when you don't do the above...... not saying it's offshore's fault but why offshore if the project is not run in appropriate way to do so?

anyway if I'd wanted a serious response I wouldn't have posted in general

[Paddy]

Such decisions have nothing to do with efficiency. The decision is made by some executive in order to show cost savings. His bonus is based on cost savings. Once he gets his bonus he will bugger off to the next company and he will be far away by the time the cost saving is found to be useless. The board will not admit that they made a mistake and the whole exercise will be claimed a success.

IT these days has little to do with working efficiently and accurately. It is all to do with the pleasing the accountants, creating smoke screens to cover up inefficiencies and keeping the share price up.

[MarillionFan]

If you manage people properly, set expectations properly and document properly all of these things work fantastically well.

[NotSaying]

Why do people think it's a good idea to send things offshore to be built where testing team think testing the system works is beyond their remit. Like expecting developers to think or comunicate with each other is beyond their remit. As well as their BAs being able to provide specifications to the detail that their developers need.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Seriously these people seem to think they are building something for fun, not that actually there are people who want to use this system and it actually has to function in the most basic end to end sense.

Sorry had massive urge to vent. Feel better now.