Reply to: Permies about to be destroyed

[alreadypacked]

You might have a point, maybe i havent been managing the stress properly. It's only work after all, not life and death.

Don't forget to post your attemps to get a new gf on here, a lot more interesting

[doomage]

the wuestio

What is best in life?

To crush your enemies, see them driven before you... and to hear the lamentation of their women

[psychocandy]

Gotta agree with some people on here.

Dont get stressed about it. People will try and stitch you up especially if you're the contractor. It happens.

Personally, one of the reasons I left permie dom because I can't be arsed to arselick and make myself look good. As I've found, sometimes you'll get blamed for something no matter whos fault it is. No point getting stressed over it - if it happens it happens. Keep billing and let the idiots argue amongst themselves.

[stevejohnson]

Youve missed the point assguru. Couple of days ago you made a nasty comment about me regarding alcoholism and maths. Today you dig out a maths comment I made from 4 years ago (4 years!). Do I have to spell out what that says about you?

I've noticed , occasionally you disappear from your frantic posting for "tea in the garden". Is that when you get booted off the library PC so Geoff from Greggs bakery can check his hotmail? I bet you storm round the reference library dreaming up your next dig!!

assielong and assguru

[aussielong]

But it should not be this way, so extreem. You are getting yourself too stressed. Back off get yourself a new gf, life is too short.

Think about it, in five years time, what do you want to remember, the two permies you f£@k up or the hotel in Paris you spent the weekend with the gf?

Currently on crap project, think about which castle to book a spa weekend

You might have a point, maybe i havent been managing the stress properly. It's only work after all, not life and death.

[escapeUK]

You think he should kill the permies? Who will sign the timesheets?

Is he dying, in which case it doesnt matter.

[doodab]

But many has wished he was dying with the blood of those he hates on his hands.

You think he should kill the permies? Who will sign the timesheets?

[escapeUK]

WAPS

No man has ever lain on his death bed and expressed a wish that he'd spent more time in the office.

But many has wished he was dying with the blood of those he hates on his hands.

[MarillionFan]

WAPS

No man has ever lain on his death bed and expressed a wish that he'd spent more time in the office.

Ian Brady?

[doodab]

But it should not be this way, so extreem. You are getting yourself too stressed. Back off get yourself a new gf, life is too short.

Think about it, in five years time, what do you want to remember, the two permies you f£@k up or the hotel in Paris you spent the weekend with the gf?

Currently on crap project, think about which castle to book a spa weekend

WAPS

No man has ever lain on his death bed and expressed a wish that he'd spent more time in the office.

[escapeUK]

But it should not be this way, so extreem. You are getting yourself too stressed. Back off get yourself a new gf, life is too short.

Think about it, in five years time, what do you want to remember, the two permies you f£@k up or the hotel in Paris you spent the weekend with the gf?

Currently on crap project, think about which castle to book a spa weekend

Definitely the fking ppl up, I fondly remember such things years later where Id struggle to tell you in what order I dated some people.

[alreadypacked]

8 years contracting in banks and fund managers with no breaks. How long till I become a seasoned contractor?

Use your tactic if your only goal is to stay in your gig at all costs. In the big cities there's lots of work. So my goal is to deliver, not merely keep billing. So if I have to fight fire with fire, I will. Fortune favours the brave. If I have to move on because of collateral damage, that's not a problem - though it hasn't happened (yet).

But it should not be this way, so extreem. You are getting yourself too stressed. Back off get yourself a new gf, life is too short.

Think about it, in five years time, what do you want to remember, the two permies you f£@k up or the hotel in Paris you spent the weekend with the gf?

Currently on crap project, think about which castle to book a spa weekend

[aussielong]

I am not really interested in lashing out
I was trying to make a philosophical point.

lets put it another way..

you fight fire with fire, the more seasoned contractors fight fire with water

8 years contracting in banks and fund managers with no breaks. How long till I become a seasoned contractor?

Use your tactic if your only goal is to stay in your gig at all costs. In the big cities there's lots of work. So my goal is to deliver, not merely keep billing. So if I have to fight fire with fire, I will. Fortune favours the brave. If I have to move on because of collateral damage, that's not a problem - though it hasn't happened (yet).

[EternalOptimist]

My point is not about who takes credit. Its just about getting my work used, which is what motivates me. As long as delivery happens I don't really care who takes credit. I know what I've done, as do those who need to. Permies taking credit is a contractors lot. Permies stupidly taking a project off track and endangering success has to be fought.

But then, i suspect you know that but just want to lash out.

I am not really interested in lashing out
I was trying to make a philosophical point.

lets put it another way..

you fight fire with fire, the more seasoned contractors fight fire with water

[aussielong]

aussie schlong, you are not the only one to ever have been in a situation where other people want to take creds for your work.
Sometimes they make life harder by restricting or cutting off contact with key users and sometimes they actively try to discredit you. Sometimes they try to get you sacked.

Your problem is that you get your ammo together then fire it off. An intelligent seasoned contractor gets the ammo and sticks it in his back pocket, then plays the game so that it never has to be used.

A contractor with a poor sense of strategy and an enormous gob (like you) , shoots it all off to no effect

My point is not about who takes credit. Its just about getting my work used, which is what motivates me. As long as delivery happens I don't really care who takes credit. I know what I've done, as do those who need to. Permies taking credit is a contractors lot. Permies stupidly taking a project off track and endangering success has to be fought.

But then, i suspect you know that but just want to lash out.