Reply to: Permie: it isn't funny,sorry!

[vista]

Friday PM meetings

Hold a meeting at 16:30 today - that's what I did - you should have heard the gnashing and wailing of teeth - Chico would be proud!

In my world you'd have been on your own in that meeting ;-)

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[Mordac]

Funny that, I was expecting less of him, we normally get, this isn't spell right,
that isn't grammatically correct, blah blah blah. However, I note he doesn't do this to you Janey, perhaps Mordy is enjoying your feminine charms !

That'll be Fleetwood then.

[janey]

Funny that, women say that to me all the time...

[janey]

Funny that, I was expecting less of him, we normally get, this isn't spell right,
that isn't grammatically correct, blah blah blah. However, I note he doesn't do this to you Janey, perhaps Mordy is enjoying your feminine charms !

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[Mordac]

I expected more of you mordy!

Funny that, women say that to me all the time...

[lORD lUCAN]

I expected more of you mordy!

Funny that, I was expecting less of him, we normally get, this isn't spell right,
that isn't grammatically correct, blah blah blah. However, I note he doesn't do this to you Janey, perhaps Mordy is enjoying your feminine charms !

[janey]

Lower the tone? Moi?

I expected more of you mordy!

[Mordac]

SEE??!! SEE?!?! It's not me who lowers the tone!

Sasguru owes me an apology!

and yes I do provide services in return for finance... I provide my wonderful programming skills in return for a nice pay cheque at the end of the month :P

Lower the tone? Moi?

[janey]

But the problem is the bar has to be lowered so much to factor in permies that your success criteria is from a business sense pretty meaningless.

I expect that as a contractor I could have completed the same projects in 50% of the time...

Oh don't give yourself so much credit!

There are bad permies and bad contractors, get over it

[janey]

I am surprised at this given that you are averaging 7.32 posts per day on here!

I'm good you see! not on here so much now tho... my rating was from when I was in a cr@p job and had nothign to do

[Joe Black.]

I am surprised at this given that you are averaging 7.32 posts per day on here!

ha ha nice one! Get in there.

[interested]

I generally at the very lest get projects completed on time, if not slightly ahead of schedule,

I am surprised at this given that you are averaging 7.32 posts per day on here!

[Troll]

I must be in the 10% then...

I generally at the very lest get projects completed on time, if not slightly ahead of schedule, don't drink tea or coffee so don't have the tea break issue... and no I'm not unorganised or indecisive before you ask!

perhaps I should have gone contractor after all?!

But the problem is the bar has to be lowered so much to factor in permies that your success criteria is from a business sense pretty meaningless.

I expect that as a contractor I could have completed the same projects in 50% of the time...

[Joe Black.]

I've met many poor contractors - but permies are the greatest problem on projects I've worked on.

The best run projects are those that are 100% contractors - one sticks in the memory - a fine team of contractors but the client wanted to get to a 70/30 perm/contractor mix.

Each week contractors would be released and a permie would replace, with each permie the productivity of the team would reduce - one permie (female ethnic) would only turn up occasionally i.e. every other week,and in general had a very poor work ethic. All could not be dismissed without going through due process (and knew it!)

You have to accept that anyone who is any good is a contractor

Agree with you 100% on that. You do get some poor quality contractors on projects, but the good thing is you can give them an hour/day/weeks notice. I worked on a project and in the first week a contractor was late twice - sayoonara. Imagine trying to get rid of some perm. that quickly.