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Previously on "An Open Letter to The Daily Telegraph"

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  • Bunk
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    Originally posted by IR35FanClub View Post
    I like rules that say - let people do what they want free of state intervention - as long as what they do doesn't affect me or screw up my planet
    That's libertarianism (with a touch of green).

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  • Mich the Tester
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    Originally posted by IR35FanClub View Post
    That's how we got in this mess in the first place. Too many people sitting around tea and biscuits and not actually doing anything.
    Nonsense. Tea and biscuits didn't bankrupt the world. There's been no tea and biscuits in Wall Street, the City, Brussels, Athens or Rome for many a year. It's all those woofty poofty frappucinos and the wide boys that drink them that have bankrupted the world.

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  • IR35FanClub
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    Originally posted by IR35FanClub View Post
    That's how we got in this mess in the first place. Too many people sitting around tea and biscuits and not actually doing anything.
    I only just realised I'm right wing. Well actually a right wing liberal with leftist tendancies. ( I like rules that say - let people do what they want free of state intervention - as long as what they do doesn't affect me or screw up my planet). Thats why I don't like political party idealism. Idelism kind of disappearded other than big state/little state, and now we have all parties figthing for the middle ground. And me voting for anyone who didn't get in last time. LOL.

    I guess that means the Greens ot Labour next time. Actually - Labour had a go recently and screwed it up. I used to think the Greens had some barmy ideas that would never work. But am slowly thinking... well just maybe we need to try something radically different. And sorry - BNP is a branch of a the spanish property devleopers trying to buy up the UK at a discount by getting rid of all non european land owners. It was silly of them to use the same name for their political party and their business ventures - I spotted it straight away. UKIP, Hmmmn, aren't they the tories who "really really don't want to be in EU" - not just "prefer not to be in the EU, but won't say so". Which by all accounts means they'll probably be ok then. Ok. lets hope the next election spits our a UKIP/Green coalition. Now we've got used to the fact that coalition governments are just as useless as one party rule, we should be a bit more flexibile than the 2[3] party voting system we used to stick to.

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  • BrilloPad
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    Originally posted by IR35FanClub View Post
    That's how we got in this mess in the first place. Too many people sitting around tea and biscuits and not actually doing anything.
    That will be the way until the chavs lose football on their flat screen TV while drinking beer.

    Nothing you can do to change that.

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  • IR35FanClub
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    Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
    I think you need a sit down and a nice cup of tea.
    That's how we got in this mess in the first place. Too many people sitting around tea and biscuits and not actually doing anything.

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  • BrilloPad
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    Originally posted by Malcolm Buggeridge View Post
    I shall be cancelling my long standing subscription of 30 years and finding a publication guaranteed to provide me with the right wing reactionary guff I need
    I think you want BNP caravaning monthly.

    HTH

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  • Mich the Tester
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    Originally posted by IR35FanClub View Post
    I think it's time you stopped following these useless parties that aren't here to represent us - using only their surrealist, egotistical vision of what a government should be to represent their own views. Nope. MPs should represent their consituents.....
    I think you need a sit down and a nice cup of tea.

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  • IR35FanClub
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    I think it's time you stopped following these useless parties that aren't here to represent us - using only their surrealist, egotistical vision of what a government should be to represent their own views. Nope. MPs should represent their consituents. Not a party.

    It's time to bring in a virtual government and have everything done "Britain's Got Talent Style" via a Saturday evening poll. There's no need for representatives any more. Why have a middleman who we know are all on the take. True democracy will put power in the hands of the people - no matter how scary that may sound. I'm sure within weeks we'll have the death penalty back on the agenda. And we'll be out the Euro. But we'll only find out if we let the people who actually live in the country make the decisions that affect them - rather than an intermediary who happens to be a disguised beuracrat.

    What I do like - is that we'll finally be able to vote to cut taxes and raise spending - thereby bankrupting the country ourselves, rather than letting a political party do it for us. Maybe some simple ground rules needed first - like - no matter what people vote to spend money on - the country can't spend more than it raises in taxes - and can't borrow - unless it's to cover unexpected shortages in income - not to pay pensions or pay off existing loans or for building new schools - as attractive as that is.

    Oh, hang on, this could take some time. But you get the idea. Think of it as no 10 petitions gone into overdrive. Each night from 8-10 the top 10 issues on no 10 will be disucssed on air - with a nunber of "experts". Bit like questions time or the sunday show. Voters can ring in and join the debate. Then at the end - a phone poll decides what happens to the motion. Aye or Nay. Call the Show - "The Nations Motions". LOL.

    Actually forget my issues about budgets - there should be no rules - if some silly bank wants to lend the UK 30 trillion - we'll take it - remember - the bank doesn't have an army or nukes or the ability to make laws! Whatever is the most important issue affecting the nation will be what gets discussed and voted on.

    I think I'm off to register my first motion that "I hereby propose that all reality TV shows are banned from air between the hours of 0:00am and 23:59pm". (The unitended consequence is that there will be a 1 minute window where we still have to suffer tulip).

    My second motion is that we should ban the sale of foreign oil burning cars and only locally made electrically powered vehicles can be sold. There's enough companies in the uk with right kowledge to make this happen by the end of 2013. It would lead to immediate full employment. And inflation.

    so - I hereby propose that all wages and prices are frozen at their 2012 levels. Things won't get more expensive and you'll be able to plan for retirement better knowing what you'll be earning for the next 20-40 years.

    If people like the EU have an issue with this... my next motion is that "The England should leave the UK, the WTO and anything other organsations that puts the interests of large international businesses before those of the citizens of the UK - or any other country for that matter."

    In fact - I propose that the mechanism of central government be entirely abandoned and everyone becomes responsible for saving for times of no work/retirement; training themselves; looking after their health and personal safety so they don't spend money in hospitals; maintaing a stash of weapons to deal with criminals & foreign invaders; educating themselves in matters such as economics, science and technology, living sustainably, health and warfare tactics.

    In otherwords we should go back to being citizens who participate in our own affairs instead of consumers who have a governement who has outsourced anything of any use to a foreign company, with shares held by the MPs. Probably.

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  • Troll
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    Originally posted by Malcolm Buggeridge View Post
    Yes. I was both but I don't feel the Conservative party represents us small c conservatives any more.
    Labour Party for you then

    Linky
    Last edited by Troll; 23 August 2012, 14:03. Reason: added linky

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  • Malcolm Buggeridge
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    Originally posted by Troll View Post
    You're a small-c conservative then?
    Yes. I was both but I don't feel the Conservative party represents us small c conservatives any more.

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  • FiveTimes
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    last time I looked this wasn't the daily telegraph, so why don't you f off and post it somewhere else.

    HTH

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  • sasguru
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    Originally posted by Troll View Post
    You're a small-c conservative then?
    He's a big-c C***.

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  • Troll
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    You're a small-c conservative then?

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  • Malcolm Buggeridge
    started a topic An Open Letter to The Daily Telegraph

    An Open Letter to The Daily Telegraph

    Sir,

    As a conservative, I have to admit to being a little
    perplexed by your newspaper's employment of one Dan Hodges, "The Blairite cuckoo in the Miliband nest", to whom daily front page column space seems to be allocated as a virtual soapbox from which he can spout his neo-liberal bilge.

    Might strongly suggest that a friendly editorial hand on the shoulder give him a gentle nudge in the direction of the Guardian or the
    Independent otherwise I shall be cancelling my long standing subscription of 30 years and finding a publication guaranteed to provide me with the right wing reactionary guff I need to make me splutter into my cornflakes every morning.
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    Yours Faithfully,
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    Malcolm Terence Vaughan Buggeridge
    Last edited by Malcolm Buggeridge; 23 August 2012, 13:31. Reason: typo

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