Reply to: the pain in spain

[Old Hack]

I am not too sure the EU would allow it, to be frank. The whole thing about the EU, is freedom of trade, freedom of movement. You can't say on entry, have you enough money to support yourself for X months, as that would be restricting freedom of movement.

Can't see it happening to be honest, I think there's going to be a lot of nationalistic political smoke and mirrors going on at the moment, to appease people severely under the cosh. I have a good friend married to a Spaniard, who said politicians really climbed about the nationalist express when Spain won Euro 2012, to try and mask the fact it was a tremendously bad news day otherwise.

Politicians, terrible folk. I cannot remember who said it, but someone once said folks nationalist ideals grow more in recession. I didn't se many Spaniards complaining of the millions of Germans, Dutch, Irish and English folk fueling their building trade/Employment statistics.

[DimPrawn]

...and whose children went on to set up and run businesses, get professional degrees and qualifications and generally became all round good eggs?

You're talking about Peter Andre aren't you?

[DodgyAgent]

Aye. And now that the native Cypriots have got fat and lazy with Euro cash, perhaps a better policy would be to encourage people to go and crap on their island.

FTFY

[Malcolm Buggeridge]

...and whose children went on to set up and run businesses, get professional degrees and qualifications and generally became all round good eggs?

Yes, Michelle, a very salient point.

As a matter of fact, there has been a television programme recently which details the history of various London streets.

I can't recall the name of this programme nor the street which featured as the subject of the edition of which I caught the tail end (it could have been Edgeware Road, but I'm not sure).

What I do remember, though, is that the properties in said street were almost exclusively under the ownership (excuse me, Nigel) of the offspring of the Greek Chariots who had settled in the area during the 1960s.

[sasguru]

...and whose children went on to set up and run businesses, get professional degrees and qualifications and generally became all round good eggs?

Aye. And now that the native Cypriots have got fat and lazy with Euro cash, perhaps a better policy would be to encourage immigration on their crap island.

[Mich the Tester]

Ironically that describes the majority of Cypriot immigrants who came over in the 50s and 60s.

...and whose children went on to set up and run businesses, get professional degrees and qualifications and generally became all round good eggs?

[sasguru]

Because we need as many poor, uneducated, 3rd world immigrants as possible to claim social and prop up the BTL market.

HTH BIDI

Ironically that describes the majority of Cypriot immigrants who came over in the 50s and 60s.

[Mich the Tester]

ISTR Berlusconi trying to garner votes by pretending to be kicking all their Rumanians out a few years ago in the face of warnings from the EU.

ftfy

[Malcolm Buggeridge]

ISTR the Italians kicking all their Rumanians out a few years ago in the face of warnings from the EU.

[DimPrawn]

Having said which any immigrants who go to a bust tulip-hole like Cyprus are probably of sub-normal IQ anyway

You are upsetting a lot of Russian criminals with that slur. I hope they are reading this.

[sasguru]

That's it in a nutshell.

In Cyprus, illegals are deported within 24 hours of capture, before they have chance to claim any hooman rights and line lawyers pockets with EU cash. They ignore any EU rules that don't benefit Cyprus. Sensible chaps.

Having said which any immigrants who go to a bust tulip-hole like Cyprus are probably of sub-normal IQ anyway

[The Spartan]

Cyprus is a small example though isn't it

[DimPrawn]

Well, that can easily be challenged but they are probably banking on that it will take long time.

That's it in a nutshell.

In Cyprus, illegals are deported within 24 hours of capture, before they have chance to claim any hooman rights and line lawyers pockets with EU cash. They ignore any EU rules that don't benefit Cyprus. Sensible chaps.

[Mich the Tester]

why cant the uk do this then?


The Spanish government last week introduced new residency requirements for EU citizens who want to live in Spain for longer than three months - which include providing proof of sufficient income 'not to become a social burden for the state'.

Read more: Spanish bank bailouts and property crash wreck Brits retirement plans | Mail Online

Because it's unnecessary and won't make a difference. If you work in another EU country then you're eligible for benefits from social insurance schemes, like disability and unemployment allowance, although after your unemployment allowance runs out you have to leave or get a job. As for benefits like income support (also available in other EU countries) for which you don't pay social security contributions but which are financed out of tax, you can already be made to leave the country.The definition of 'burden for the state' is those benefits outside of social security and your personal taxes, so such legislation wouldn't make any difference.

As for social insurance benefits, fair enough to demand foreigners are excluded from those, but then they'll demand (and probably get) the right, through the courts, to be excluded from paying social insurance contributions, which would make them cheaper on the employment market and therefore cause unemployment among locals to rise.

[AtW]

The Spanish government last week introduced new residency requirements for EU citizens who want to live in Spain for longer than three months - which include providing proof of sufficient income 'not to become a social burden for the state'.

Well, that can easily be challenged but they are probably banking on that it will take long time.