Reply to: IRA says sorry for murder of school girl

Re: Strange...

As the old saying goes "one mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist"

Apparently that's how we got the Irish Government to take the issue seriously in the 70's - we threatened to give in to the IRA's demands, and give them Northern Ireland

I highly doubt it, at least in the 70's/early to mid 80's as then NI was one of the richest (booming industry and low unemployment) parts of Ireland (and possible all the UK as well, excluding London) with all the steel works, shipyards and other related industrys, no way in hell would the UK have let it go, while the republic would have rejoyced at getting it.

Now in from the late 80's onwards when NI economy started crashing that threat would work, because if they handed over NI to the Republic now it would probably bankrupt them.

Re: Strange...

Well if the British Government had not made such a @#%$-up of partitioning Ireland decades ago, the bigoted Loyalist dictators that hade power handed to them would not have been left in any position to create the environment for the likes of the IRA to flourish.

Agreed - we should have handed the whole lot over and let Eire sort them out

Apparently that's how we got the Irish Government to take the issue seriously in the 70's - we threatened to give in to the IRA's demands, and give them Northern Ireland

Strange...

That Mr. Adams is a mischievous type with a happy-go-luck twinkle in his eye. They're all loveable rouges and those nasty spud stealing Brits have caused all the problems. Now we've got that straight, just had over a few more billions in tax payers' cash so we can carry on our merry little games.

Re: Honest types.

The IRA are murdering scumbags, but I've never known them to make bomb threats without planting a bomb first - was there actaully a bomb in the disco or was it some kid having a laugh?

A terrorist organisation is one which uses 'terror' to achieve political ends.

I take it you didn't grow up with armoured cars at the end of your street then.

Re: Honest types.

There is no such thing as terroist organisation

A terrorist organisation is one which uses 'terror' to achieve political ends.

That includes the IRA, PLO and various other organisations.

Forgive me but the IRA took pot shots at my family twice. Once when they called in a bomb threat while my mother was performing in a disco. The other time was my father who was working on a BBC Production in Belfast. They took exception to the English BBC coming to Belfast to tell Irish kids how to get job! The latter one was a 1000 llb bomb planted to scare the film crew away. It scared the local kids more, many of the crew grew up in the Blitz and were used to bombs going off.

Of course there are such things as terrorist groups.

It isn't sorry as in "we are sorry we did it" but rather 'we are sorry we had to do it'. Just like the hollow appology of the Brighton bomber.

So they are going to hand over the person who pulled the trigger and those who conspired to keep this secret?

Did n't think so

Re: Honest types.

no I believe PLO is freedom fighters... they only target military Israelies

Sandy, for a bloke you can be quite thick.:rollin

Re: Ah but you have to see the bigger picture

Well if the British Government had not made such a @#%$-up of partitioning Ireland decades ago, the bigoted Loyalist dictators that hade power handed to them would not have been left in any position to create the environment for the likes of the IRA to flourish.

Ah but you have to see the bigger picture

you might consider that the IRA were terrorists, just because they blew up a number of innocent civilians, but it would appear that those were only the first fledgling steps of a democratic party.

Re: Honest types.

ermmm blowing up teenagers in a disco or people on a bus going to the market - yep that sounds like a legitimate military target to me - NOT!!!!!

Chico you fascist

all of the groups you mention are freedom fighters.
(So they tell me)

And FFS chico, don't fly off on one, it's not aimed at you.

Re: Honest types.

so chico are you gona do business with thye co-op?? huh??

and no I believe PLO is freedom fighters... they only target military Israelies... but can't help it if the coward Israeli government always puts civilians with militry

Re: Honest types.

Oh here we go.... Sandy lets not go down that route ..

IRA - terrorists
Al qaeda - terrorists
Saddam et al - terrorists
PLO - terrorists

Dont trot out " Nelson Mandela and the ANC are terrorists " linebecause they never targeted civilians just the evil aparthied government and soldiers

Re: Honest types.

Ahh yes, the IRA. The only terrorist organisation to be able to speak the the government - and have them listen.

There is no such thing as terroist organisation.. there are only freedom fighters/freedom organisation.. the term or terroist organisation is a political invention ...

so there..