A book for Wim?

[doodab]

Which is why they are getting more subtle. Go Compare is deliberately designed so that even if you play/ff through adverts it is still recognisable.

Which is why I'm currently only watching BBC4 / iplayer and DVDs.

I may have to make an exception for the final on Saturday but at least that is uninterrupted during the actual play.

[BrilloPad]

It's a constant stream of intrusion upon ones consciousness and I do my best to avoid it.

Which is why they are getting more subtle. Go Compare is deliberately designed so that even if you play/ff through adverts it is still recognisable.

[Diver]

I haven't actually seen it. I doubt I would find it upsetting although TBH I find all advertising irksome to some degree. It's a constant stream of intrusion upon ones consciousness and I do my best to avoid it.

agreed

[doodab]

Are you offended (even mildly) by that advert?

I haven't actually seen it. I doubt I would find it upsetting although TBH I find all advertising irksome to some degree. It's a constant stream of intrusion upon ones consciousness and I do my best to avoid it.

[BrilloPad]

Are you offended (even mildly) by that advert?

If doodab says yes then he is a big screaming Jessie!

[mudskipper]

In my house, that would be me. If you ask Ms Doodab what oven cleaner is, she would point at me.

I think the fundamental problem is that many flavours of Feminism see economic inequality as a consequence of a society built to benefit men when in fact it's a consequence of a society built to benefit the wealthy. You don't need to "dismantle the patriarchy" as they like to put it, because that isn't the problem.

Are you offended (even mildly) by that advert?

[BrilloPad]

I earn the big bucks, the beatch does the cleaning and cooking

Nuff said


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Why dont you want your wife to see this? Will you have to tell her about the big bucks and rental properties while she has been living off the miserly housekeeping?

[Diver]

I earn the big bucks, the beatch does the cleaning and cooking

Nuff said


Please don't let my wife see this, Please don't let my wife see this, Please don't let my wife see this, Please don't let my wife see this, Please don't let my wife see this, Please don't let my wife see this, Please don't let my wife see this, Please don't let my wife see this, Please don't let my wife see this, Please don't let my wife see this, Please don't let my wife see this, Please don't let my wife see this

[doodab]

Surely the example in that article of an oven cleaner being "so simple a man could use it", if offensive at all, is equally offensive to both sexes.

Let's face it, the excuse of "I'm rubbish at washing up/hoovering/cooking/cleaning, therefore I don't do it" isn't really elevating women who, presumably are deemed 'clever' enough to perform these stimulating and exciting tasks.

I wonder who buys most oven cleaner.

In my house, that would be me. If you ask Ms Doodab what oven cleaner is, she would point at me.

I think the fundamental problem is that many flavours of Feminism see economic inequality as a consequence of a society built to benefit men when in fact it's a consequence of a society built to benefit the wealthy. You don't need to "dismantle the patriarchy" as they like to put it, because that isn't the problem.

[BrilloPad]

Surely the example in that article of an oven cleaner being "so simple a man could use it", if offensive at all, is equally offensive to both sexes.

Let's face it, the excuse of "I'm rubbish at washing up/hoovering/cooking/cleaning, therefore I don't do it" isn't really elevating women who, presumably are deemed 'clever' enough to perform these stimulating and exciting tasks.

I wonder who buys most oven cleaner.

Mrs BP buys all the oven cleaner. But only as she does the shopping. I tell her what brand.

We have a deal. She likes making a mess in the kitchen. I like clearing the mess up.

[mudskipper]

Surely the example in that article of an oven cleaner being "so simple a man could use it", if offensive at all, is equally offensive to both sexes.

Let's face it, the excuse of "I'm rubbish at washing up/hoovering/cooking/cleaning, therefore I don't do it" isn't really elevating women who, presumably are deemed 'clever' enough to perform these stimulating and exciting tasks.

I wonder who buys most oven cleaner.

[BrilloPad]

I read about this in the Groniad Lagging at school, the butt of cruel jokes: are males the new Second Sex? | Society | The Observer

From the summary looks like the book is a load of bollux. Possibly the most stupid complaint was :-

midwifery services are described as "one-to-one care"

good!

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perhaps the only good bit :-

"The biggest challenge is … tackling the male tendency to suffer in silence," says Tim Samuels, presenter of Radio 5's Men's Hour. "We're getting better at admitting to our weaknesses or seeking help, but there's still such a long way to go."

I would go further. Not only do men not communicate but they fail to support each other and will even hinder each other. I left fathers 4 justice as there are way too many men who would rather have no solution than a solution that does not involve them. Or as Matt O'Connor put it "I created a monster".

[mudskipper]

The Second Sexism: Discrimination Against Men and Boys Blackwell Public Philosophy: Amazon.co.uk: David Benatar: Books

Nah - synopsis says This is not part of a backlash against feminism. Looks like it would be far too rational and well-argued for wim.

[doodab]

The Second Sexism: Discrimination Against Men and Boys Blackwell Public Philosophy: Amazon.co.uk: David Benatar: Books