Reply to: Gareth Williams - body in the bag whodunnit

[Sysman]

Surely engaging in such things would have made him weak spot that justs asks to be exploited by foreign intelligence services?

Some newspaper hack did a tour of the CIA a few years ago and apparently they don't look for James Bond types. Instead they like folks who have gambling problems or the like so that they need the money and won't object too much if asked to do dirty work. As a newspaper hack he thought he was probably well qualified.

[SupremeSpod]

You and whose army.

Now you're asking the right question...

[AtW]

Where is Baggy?!?

[TimberWolf]

I can tell you but then I'd have to place you in a large hold-all.

You and whose army.

[SupremeSpod]

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What was his evidence?

I can tell you but then I'd have to place you in a large hold-all.

[TimberWolf]

I was interested in this comment:

The coroner also criticised the police for the way they seized Mr Williams' work phone and other items, and she criticised his line manager, MI6 officer "G", saying his evidence "begins to stretch bounds of credibility".
BBC News - MI6 death: Gareth Williams 'probably' killed unlawfully

What was his evidence?

[Sands of Time]

From what's been reported recently it's pretty obvious he invited someone or a couple back to his flat for a bondage session, and they overdid the locked in a bag scenario and accidently killed him.

I was slightly surprised that it would take only about three minutes to suffocate. You'd think enough air would leak in to last ages if not indefinitely.

Anyway, it seems rather unusual to even own a holdall large enough to climb into, except for bondage capers. Anyone here own one? Well MF, obviously. But otherwise I doubt it.

I think suffocation occurs because of the restricted space and difficulty breathing - it freaks me out a bit. I heard the details on the radio, not good.



Tone

[OwlHoot]

These days no-one cares.

And anyway, most of them probably have some bizarre sexual peccadillo.

The cleverest ones are the worst, because they have the most imagination.

[BrilloPad]

Surely engaging in such things would have made him weak spot that justs asks to be exploited by foreign intelligence services?

These days no-one cares.

[AtW]

Or he was known for doing bondage, and either our government or a foreign one wanted him dead, and thought this would look plausible for their cleaners to fix up after his death

Surely engaging in such things would have made him weak spot that justs asks to be exploited by foreign intelligence services?

[BrilloPad]

Anyway, it seems rather unusual to even own a holdall large enough to climb into

I once bought one when emigrating to Zurich. I then found it was too heavy to carry.

[MarillionFan]

My money's on the landlord.

Nah. Doesn't look the type.

[amcdonald]

From what's been reported recently it's pretty obvious he invited someone or a couple back to his flat for a bondage session, and they overdid the locked in a bag scenario and accidently killed him..

Or he was known for doing bondage, and either our government or a foreign one wanted him dead, and thought this would look plausible for their cleaners to fix up after his death

[OwlHoot]

From what's been reported recently it's pretty obvious he invited someone or a couple back to his flat for a bondage session, and they overdid the locked in a bag scenario and accidently killed him.

I was slightly surprised that it would take only about three minutes to suffocate. You'd think enough air would leak in to last ages if not indefinitely.

Anyway, it seems rather unusual to even own a holdall large enough to climb into, except for bondage capers. Anyone here own one? Well MF, obviously. But otherwise I doubt it.

[BrilloPad]

Its the Russians.

Where was atw at the time of death?