Reply to: Typical Scot with a chip on his shoulder

[Freamon]

How hard would it be for a government to prohibit the import or manufacture and distribution of tobacco products should it so wish to do so?

Given how addictive tobacco is, this would probably just add to the problem that banning other drugs have caused.

[Troll]

Not so true in my experience - all the kids I know think smoking is cool because it's so, banned and like wicked, man. The kid with the carton of tobacco is still the cool dude.

The whole thing has backfired. Which was the obvious inevitability of the stupid authoritarian popular political stance giving an unintentional kudos to a unremarkable, common albeit risky recreational activity.

How hard would it be for a government to prohibit the import or manufacture and distribution of tobacco products should it so wish to do so?

I'm not an advocate of smoking, but I do see lots of hypocrisy from governments that permit something to happen and then tax the fook out of it & create an industry just to get people to stop doing what is permitted

[hyperD]

Firstly because the prices are ridiculous and secondly due to the campaigns virtually all kids think smoking is disgusting. It also helps the fact they see smokers standing outside in the street in the cold freezing, and virtually no-one is allowed to smoke on TV any more unless it's at some ridiculous time of night.

Not so true in my experience - all the kids I know think smoking is cool because it's so, banned and like wicked, man. The kid with the carton of tobacco is still the cool dude.

The whole thing has backfired. Which was the obvious inevitability of the stupid authoritarian popular political stance giving an unintentional kudos to a unremarkable, common albeit risky recreational activity.

[SueEllen]

My point is though, if the kids can see it at all, it is still more objectionable than a glittery cigarette packet. Moving it a little still doesn't solve the issue although it is a step in the right direction.

Kids get to see far more disgusting things via the internet. They also get sent pictures from other pupils at school on their mobile phones. (I've been shown what other kids have sent the kids I know.)

I do agree with you letting kids see cigarette packets and the price of cigarettes isn't a problem.

Firstly because the prices are ridiculous and secondly due to the campaigns virtually all kids think smoking is disgusting. It also helps the fact they see smokers standing outside in the street in the cold freezing, and virtually no-one is allowed to smoke on TV any more unless it's at some ridiculous time of night.

[wim121]

Not in the shops wim goes to.

Haha that reminds me of the following shopping bag, far better than the non de-script brown bag you get in most adult shops:

[wim121]

Shops of all kinds from supermarkets to independent newsagents put lads' magazines as well as porn ones on the top shelf. They have done that for a few years now.

Kids are more likely to get their colouring books placed on the bottom shelf next to Hello or Bella.

Some shops have made an effort, yes, I will concede that. However the problem is still out there:




My point is though, if the kids can see it at all, it is still more objectionable than a glittery cigarette packet. Moving it a little still doesn't solve the issue although it is a step in the right direction.

[Old Greg]

Shops of all kinds from supermarkets to independent newsagents put lads' magazines as well as porn ones on the top shelf. They have done that for a few years now.

Kids are more likely to get their colouring books placed on the bottom shelf next to Hello or Bella.

Not in the shops wim goes to.

[SueEllen]

- So children cant be exposed to a glittery smoke packet for fears of depravity, but porn magazines right next to the children's colouring books are fine? Ramming a cucumber up a woman's arse isn't sex education either.

Shops of all kinds from supermarkets to independent newsagents put lads' magazines as well as porn ones on the top shelf. They have done that for a few years now.

Kids are more likely to get their colouring books placed on the bottom shelf next to Hello or Bella.

[AtW]

When the moment takes me.

Plus I was on bail pending further inquiries for punching

FTFY

[wim121]

What has this got to do with him Scottish? He would have behaved as badly if English.

Nahhhhh, only a silly Scot drinks a can of special brew and then tries to start a fight with everyone around them. Reminds me of one of my favourite Scottish (well cartoon character counts right?) quotes:

Brothers and sisters are natural enemies. Like Englishmen and Scots! Or Welshmen and Scots! Or Japanese and Scots! Or Scots and other Scots! Damn Scots! They ruined Scotland!

Bigger issue is that MPs are out of touch with the electorate. And too in touch with each other.

Indeed and frankly this is getting annoying.

The most recent one is the masking of cigarettes in supermarkets:
- Hiding a product before sale and not displaying the price for it is illegal in itself.
- Making the product more taboo/black market-ish just increases the appeal to younger people as in a child's mind you only hide something because it's good!
- Prohibition or steps towards it, doesn't work, this point was proved with alcohol and we have had centuries to learn this.
- So children cant be exposed to a glittery smoke packet for fears of depravity, but porn magazines right next to the children's colouring books are fine? Ramming a cucumber up a woman's arse isn't sex education either.

[wim121]

When the moment takes me.

Plus I was on a promise.

Are we playing jeopardy? Oooo my answer to that clue:
> Things a rapist says


On a serious note, I'm not accusing you of that at all .......

However, just saying that you would only be a polite functioning human being just because you think some loose knickered woman might give it up to you is a bit creepy/perverted.

[BrilloPad]

You can't touch me, officers, I'm an MP, said Eric Joyce - Telegraph

Sooner we cut loose Scotland the better. No more Scottish MPs in Westminster.

What has this got to do with him Scottish? He would have behaved as badly if English.

Bigger issue is that MPs are out of touch with the electorate. And too in touch with each other.

[MarillionFan]

You don't strike me as a tipping type.

When the moment takes me.

Plus I was on a promise.

[wim121]

The UK changed, places of work now come with a bar?

How do they ever get anything done?

They always have MF

Up nawf, there is a civil service building near me, which in my youth, I had the misfortune to contract at (they had to get contractors in as permies had a high suicide/crime rate because civil service breeds aresholes). In the building they had smoking rooms (until the ban) and still have a nice solid wooden bar with snooker and pool tables. You are allowed to utilise the facilities during work hour breaks so long as you don't get hammered but in civil service you can never tell as they are so adept at breaking peoples spirits most desks/people look like this:

Sooner we cut loose Scotland the better. No more Scottish MPs in Westminster.

Hear hear!

[oscarose]

Sooner we cut loose Scotland the better. No more Scottish MPs in Westminster.