Reply to: Next Labour PM?

[EternalOptimist]

when I were a lad, they had this strange idea - the right man for the right job

[KentPhilip]

Labour. They're like weeds. You can cut them right back and have a nice flowerbed, but they always grow back again and spoil everything.

[wim121]

Erm... are you sure?

In my experience, with very few exceptions, young politicians are idealists, not realists.

Yes Im sure.

Im not denying that one is more idealistic with naivety commonly miss-associated with youth, as a massive sweeping generalisation. However sweeping generalisations usually arent accurate.

However if we are to use gross generalisations, the younger generations have experienced recent education, healthcare and are a more active part in everyday society across all subsets of class as opposed to OAP lifestyles or middle class lifestyles away from the reality of our streets.

A young politician is far better placed to assess accurately the problems in areas such as education or poverty due to recently having been integrated within it, if we subscribe to your model of thought that is.

Maybe one shouldnt use sweeping generalisations at all? We are all guilty to some degree of that, but I get annoyed by the level some do generalise, using age as a prejudice mechanism to spread their vile hate.



The difference between myself and someone who claims not to have prejudices? I can admit my prejudices that some may label as racism, homophobic, etc, which isnt accurate and proves they havent listened to all I said. However the defining factor here is I have the integrity to admit all my prejudices and the limits of them, even exploring the reasoning behind them.

Unlike some people in society and some I would wager on here, that preach about how open and free of prejudice they are, acting like a perfect liberal, then sneer and condemn others in society with nothing but a factor like a number as a relevant factor, based on their own privileged experience at that age, which is failing to acknowledge any other data except theirs, which makes the meandering fool even more intolerant and prejudiced than I. The next wave of negative repping will only further my point and add more collective data to this.

Sorry, unless you've been employed, unemployed, ran a business, travelled the world, had a family, met a lot of different people at different stages of life and experienced it yourself, HTF is a politician supposed to know what this country needs?

Straight from Uni Meeja studies doesn't cut it.

I agree to some extent, but you fail to understand what a politician is.

However that young lady, isnt even all that young, she is in her thirties.

Age doesnt bring that experience though. Lets use a rather flippant example of george bush. A man so useless that he isnt aware of much world geography at all, hardly travelled and willfully ignorant of the world and a blithering idiot that cant even speak properly.

That or a media studies graduate? Give me the graduate any day.

On to your lack of understanding of what a politician is in our own country: A politician is a public servant elected to serve the will of the people. That is it, the definition, that simple. So it doesnt require someone worldly travelled or someone who has run a business at all, that is a fallacy.

What it requires is a person of utmost integrity and loyalty to their constituents, whom attempts to consult as broader range as possible of their own constituents and is open to solicitation and communication off their constituents to invoke their will and raise issues they feel to be of importance for debate.

That is the essence of democracy. A businessperson may actually be more corrupt or fail to represent their people properly, perhaps. The only thing a politician needs is honesty and to be a good slave, or servant if you will, like they should be.

However, when was the last time we ever saw that?

[hyperD]

I'm with Mr Connolly on this one:

"The desire to be a politician, should ban you for life for ever being one".

[Doggy Styles]

Also younger politicians are:
- Have a better grip on reality despite those ignorant elders that try to make out they are inexperienced. Experience isnt always correlated to age. I know plenty of 15-30 year olds far more mature than those double their age due to facing some hardships. The point is, the younger the politician, the more in touch they are with how modern society operates.

Erm... are you sure?

In my experience, with very few exceptions, young politicians are idealists, not realists.

[DimPrawn]

Sorry, unless you've been employed, unemployed, ran a business, travelled the world, had a family, met a lot of different people at different stages of life and experienced it yourself, HTF is a politician supposed to know what this country needs?

Straight from Uni Meeja studies doesn't cut it.

[wim121]

She looks about 17 years old.

You say that like it's a bad thing? To quote someone else, I would! If only all women her age looked that youthful.

WTF is happening to British politics?

Again, why such a bad thing?

It's good younger people are getting involved and marketed by parties now. How else do you expect to get young voters involved and interested? Why should any 18 year old voter care about 40 year old silly men arguing and baaaaing like sheep?

Also younger politicians are:
- Less spoilt and less inclined to "london" mentality due to exposure for a shorter period. They realise a world exists outside of the m25.
- Have a better grip on reality despite those ignorant elders that try to make out they are inexperienced. Experience isnt always correlated to age. I know plenty of 15-30 year olds far more mature than those double their age due to facing some hardships. The point is, the younger the politician, the more in touch they are with how modern society operates.
- Sexier. Honestly, why so serious? Why not have a bit of sexy glamour in politics? Id find the revelation of a burlesque politician much easier to swallow than a £100k duck island.

[DimPrawn]

She looks about 17 years old.



WTF is happening to British politics?

[wim121]

Could be worse ..... Just think of the horror of Hartman !!

[blacjac]

No Picture to see if we would = Fail

Take your pick
Stella Creasy, MP for Walthamstow. - Google Search

[bobspud]

Good Comment "Yet another career politician. Go and experience the real world and come back in 5 years or so."

Wouldn't help her at all. If she was PC enough for the Labour Clowns of Waltham forest she will be a barking mad loon. I don't mean socialist. I mean totally useless to the rest of society...

[BrilloPad]

Good Comment "Yet another career politician. Go and experience the real world and come back in 5 years or so."

[Doggy Styles]

I see some parallels between the current Labour shadow cabinet and that of Hague.

Loads of ex-ministers who failed before, led by a characature of the party, supported by the more extreme Lords and luvvies living in the past. The public didn't want them back.

So they need some wooomph!

[SimonMac]

Blah blah blah I can't copy and paste blah blah blah

FTFY

[pacharan]

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Pacharan = a shower of tulip

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