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Previously on "oh dear: Young people 'happy without God'"
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Originally posted by dang65Just remember, He's got the whole world in His hands. And that includes your bollocks, so be careful what you say.
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Originally posted by TheMonkeyJust a reminder...
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Originally posted by dang65Did I say "scientific evidence"? I said "scientific belief". As far as I'm concerned science is as much a belief system as religion.
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So my point... I can't believe this obsession with God existing or not. No one can ever prove it and his purpose is not certainly to be seen by nutters like Chico. It's impossible to see it as you should be God too to be able to (no, Chico, you are not God by millions of light years). But to all the atheist/agnostic/undecided, one thing must be said: if he's up there, he has certainly done a lot of work for us, although we tend to notice his mistakes much quicker.
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I've just had an idea for a T-Shirt...."Love Jesus...Hate God".
It's based on the story which I told on here a few weeks back. In it, I explained how a Xian Evangie explained that "God is a real pyscho-nutter who hates Mankind, coz of the Garden of Eve incident. Jesus however, is forgiving, and if you worship Jesus, when the time comes and you go to Heaven, (if you have been nice), Jesus will slip you in via the back door and keep you out of God's way, coz if he see's ya, he'll go ballistic."
So there we go..."Love Jesus, Hate God".
You know it makes sense.
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Originally posted by dang65Does the innate human desire for a conspiracy theory somehow override the accepted scientific belief that none of the Bible is true anyway?Originally posted by ChicoAnd what scientific evidence would that be? Please provide evidence and marvel us with your knowledge.
There are absolute truths in religion and absolute truths in science, but both have plenty of grey areas and a genuine scientist will be the first to admit that. And religious leaders spend their whole lives debating the meaning of The Word and all that, so they obviously acknowledge that they have plenty left to discover just as science does.
In fact, the droning dullness of pedantic followers of science (who aren't actually scientists themselves) is at least as bad as the ravings of blind religious loons who refuse to discuss and reinterpret. The interesting scientists and religious leaders are those who know that they will always be learning and that nothing is certain beyond a few fundamental truths. Fortunately there's still quite a few of them around.
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Originally posted by sasguruLooks like Chico has disappeared. Perhaps he's "big-hitting" in the City again or perhaps looking for guidance from his minders.
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Originally posted by dang65I'm confused about the massive popularity of The Da Vinci Code (which I haven't read). If there's supposed to be no particular interest in the Christian church these days and hardly anyone believes in Jesus or gives a toss about going to church and all that... then why the **** is this book selling by the shedload?
Seems to me that the whole Christian thing is still alive and kicking if a conspiracy theory about it can raise so much interest. I mean, there are dead religions. Does anyone still follow that Aztec stuff for example? And that was a lot more recent than the Jesus thing. If someone wrote a book claiming that Xtlcoatlx had actually married Lxtlcoatxl and there had to be a big cover up then I don't suppose it would sell more than about three copies to the author's friends and family.
If you combine the sales of The Da Vinci Code and The Bible then it probably adds up to a lot of interest in Jesus at a time when we're told that no one is particularly interested in all that bollo at all any more.
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Looks like Chico has disappeared. Perhaps he's "big-hitting" in the City again or perhaps looking for guidance from his minders.
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Religious societies are MORE dysfunctional
Originally posted by xoggothSlightly off topic, but from looking at Christian websites you always find the simplistic notion by the godly that more Christian values will lead to a better society. In fact if you look at religious belief and violence/promiscuity etc. in various societies you can soon see there is no correlation at all. Religion on its own solves none of society's problems. A more traditional conservative society with religion as a part of that, maybe.
PS Chico. I know I am wasting my time as usual, but what are these facts? If you can give them why don't you?
http://moses.creighton.edu/jrs/2005/2005-11.html
Modern Scandinavia and Japan are the most secular societies in the world and have relatively low levels of crime and other dysfunction.
Not surprising, as non-religious societies are more rational and evolved.
Actually Chico why don't you move to the American mid-West. You could buy a gun to defend yourself from your fellow Christians.Last edited by sasguru; 8 May 2006, 13:27.
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Originally posted by darmstadt
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Originally posted by The Lone GunmanMay I Chico:
Pah you prove your ignorance by the stupidity of your question! Atheist idiot!
His own written word is for the benefit of mankind.
God is all powerful and none may understand his purpose save him.
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Originally posted by TheMonkeyChico - If god exists, why does he murder his worshippers when it is against his own written word?
(welcome to the big religious brain feedback loop).
Pah you prove your ignorance by the stupidity of your question! Atheist idiot!
His own written word is for the benefit of mankind.
God is all powerful and none may understand his purpose save him.
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