Reply to: As 2011 draws to a close, I gotta ask....

[Troll]

This current mrs stek's city is like that,

Do you change them often?

[AtW]

It's ****ing cold in England too - almost like in Stalingrad during siege, of course it would be even colder in Siberia!

[Paddy]

Winters in place in Siberia where I've lived for many years now much warmer, you know like having rain now compared to 20 years ago having -30C with snow everywhere since October.

In the European part of Russia, the current temperatures are ten degrees below the norm

Russian winter goes extreme, claims lives - English pravda.ru

Winter temperatures in Russia have gone extreme. The air in some regions of the republic of Yakutia (Siberia) has cooled down to -50 degrees Centigrade. Anomalous cold of -40 degrees is expected in the Perm region of Russia, Vesti.Ru reports.

[PAH]

Hmmm, this reminds me - going to watch Arrival on blu ray now.

I was going to watch Zulu on blu ray at the exact same time it's shown on terrestrial TV (always is at this time of year ), but it started at 10am today.

Any proper Zulu fan knows it ripens at noon.

[AtW]

This current mrs stek's city is like that, Chelyabinsk, I think we were out in -32C one evening and to me it felt invigorating, cold yeah but not damp. Loved it, miss it.

Aye, not far from mine - it's pretty cold place too, once airplane I was on landed there en route.

[stek]

Not in our city - the climate is dry so -35C isn't so bad, when I was in school it was cut off for 12-14 olds, Uni was always open to my knowledge but then again I've skipped plenty of lectures to hang around computer labs instead

This current mrs stek's city is like that, Chelyabinsk, I think we were out in -32C one evening and to me it felt invigorating, cold yeah but not damp. Loved it, miss it.

Cheek muscles froze like dentists injection and no talking, vocal chords freeze and you end up grunting to talk! Loads of pissed up blokes about on 2ltr bottles of 9% beer but not a scrap of bother, not to say there wasn't any, missus stek's bro was mugged same area earlier.

Seem to remember the go to school/dont go to school announcements were on local radio?

Go back to 'kvartira', fecking boiling! -35C and i had to have the windows open....

[AtW]

Weather changes in the short term?

I repeat it's not short term - I compare things that were over 20 years ago (10 year period) compared to last 10 years - MUCH milder climate now there.

[AtW]

My missus seems to think that the -35c rule was uni students, -24c for school kids proper.

Not in our city - the climate is dry so -35C isn't so bad, when I was in school it was cut off for 12-14 olds, Uni was always open to my knowledge but then again I've skipped plenty of lectures to hang around computer labs instead

[hyperD]

What exactly is natural if typical December's temp of -25-30C drops to -10C or even less?

Weather changes in the short term?

I dunno. But when I spent time in Hungary, the temp dropped to -25°C in Rakamaz in 1989(?) and then it varied and then there was no snow and then suddenly a few years ago it dropped to -15°C and we had loads of freezing snow and skiing.

It's natural weather change with a natural warming period with no acceleration of warming as a function of man made CO2 emissions.

The long term trend is a slight 0.5° warming over 100 years.

But I'm sad to say, I've opened Pandora's box and unleashed the maelstrom of the Romulan zealous Climate Change of the pjclarke warbird.

May god have mercy on your souls.


Kirk: "Computer, destruct sequence 1, code 1, 1-A."

Scotty: "Computer, Commander Montgomery Scott, Chief Engineering Officer, destruct sequence 2, code 1, 1-A, 2-B."

Chekov: "Computer, this is Commander Pavel Chekov, Acting Science Officer, destruct sequence 3, code 1-B, 2-B, 3."

Computer: "Destruct sequence completed and engaged, awaiting final code for one minute countdown."

Kirk: "Code zero, zero, zero...destruct...zero."

Computer: "Destruct sequence is activated."

[stek]

My missus seems to think that the -35c rule was uni students, -24c for school kids proper. Not sure about this - averages over extremes, said missus was home in urals last Feb and it was colder than ever, -25c for Feb. Having said that first time I went we got caught in a proper blizzard, was ace, literally snow totally in your face, couldn't see three feet, took a pic and it's all, well, snow. In your face. Was the same evening I found out they had Whiskas cat food in the produktniy, missus' cat went mental for it, wouldn't eat anything else after that and starved to death. What do they put in that to make it so cool for cats (see what I did there?).

[AtW]

Natural causes?

What exactly is natural if typical December's temp of -25-30C drops to -10C or even less?

That's a big drop over just 20 years - very very noticeable to anybody who lives there, because nobody would give a tulip about few degrees change: -33C or -27C don't make whole load of difference, but when it goes down to -10C in December than it's pretty bloody noticeable!

[hyperD]

This isn't few degrees change over hundred years, the climate there has become massively warmer.

Natural causes?

Scotty: "Captain, she canna take any more bombardment from the pj warbird photon torpedoes. Dilithium chamber at maximum... "

[AtW]

Chernobyl?

No, our city was too far from it.

Hmmm, this reminds me - going to watch Arrival on blu ray now.

[hyperD]

This isn't few degrees change over hundred years, the climate there has become massively warmer.

Chernobyl?

[AtW]

History : Weather Underground

Actual temperature -7 mean temperature -14

Conditions snow

the historical data does not agree with you

I lived there ok? And I knew how cold winters were twenty years ago: the time in question was late 80s - there was no such thing as -11 C in December, anything below - 20 C would have been total anomaly warm.

Good day was anything under -30 C.

This isn't few degrees change over hundred years, the climate there has become massively warmer.

Found someone recording temps:

http://www.gismeteo.ru/diary/4501/1999/12/ - this is 1999 - there was even PLUS temp recorded!

Some years recently there were proper -25-30Cs on some days, but weather is so volatile there now - gets much warmer on some days and believe me this tulip never happened in end of 80s. I know that for fact since I've checked temps every bloody morning because if it was low enough I did not have to go to school!