Reply to: Open Source Web-Based File Browser?

[Fleetwood]

Fleety, shouldn't that be dyed-in-the-wool?
Mordy in "Smartarse" Mode

Yes. (Really hung-over yesterday)

[TheMonkey]

err 'cos it's shiny and pays well.

My god someone worked out how to polish a turd!

[DimPrawn]

I'll drink to that.

[bobhope]

using J2EE

God it'd be like eBay, which I've noticed has deteriorated in reliability and quality significantly since they changed from the COM / ISAPI platform it was based on.

I just don't understand why anyone uses J2EE at all - it's such a mess.

err 'cos it's shiny and pays well.

[TheMonkey]

Can you imagine what the BBC website would have been like if they developed it in that bloated pile of tulipe known as Java/J2EE?

God it'd be like eBay, which I've noticed has deteriorated in reliability and quality significantly since they changed from the COM / ISAPI platform it was based on.

I just don't understand why anyone uses J2EE at all - it's such a mess.

[DimPrawn]

Can you imagine what the BBC website would have been like if they developed it in that bloated pile of tulipe known as Java/J2EE?

[TheMonkey]

mod_perl is tulipe - Doesn't even work with Apache 2. Permanent perl is taking over (from mod_perl, rather than the world).

P.S. The BBC are stuck with mod_perl for much of their web code, and they're now stuck on some ancient versions of Apache and php

Rubbish - mod_perl 2 works perfectly with apache 2! So do recent version of PHP which are backwardly compatible.

BBC use CGI/perl rather than mod_perl handlers (although they use mod_perl to accelerate the CGI). They also use SSI. The reason they're using old stuff is because it works so flawlessly and is simple! 99.999% of their hits don't give a monkey's about what technology the site uses and the people who work there use the KISS principle for developing software.

Anyway, I tend to still use Apache 1.3 for a lot of things. Mainly because it's bundled with OpenBSD which I use for anything I can, again because it works flawlessly and is simple.

[OwlHoot]

mod_perl is king and you know it.

mod_perl is tulipe - Doesn't even work with Apache 2. Permanent perl is taking over (from mod_perl, rather than the world).

P.S. The BBC are stuck with mod_perl for much of their web code, and they're now stuck on some ancient versions of Apache and php

[OwlHoot]

I prefer batik, but hardly anyone knows what that means either.

I thought batik was an SVG image file viewer and editor. Guess I'll have to go and check.

[TheMonkey]

mod_perl is king and you know it.

[threaded]

Fleety, shouldn't that be dyed-in-the-wool?

I prefer batik, but hardly anyone knows what that means either.

[Mordac]

A died-in-the-wool geek down the pub (he has a T-shirt with a file-encryption algorithm printed on it) swears by something called Sapphire. (?)
hth

F in "Mainframe dinosaur" mode

Fleety, shouldn't that be dyed-in-the-wool?


Mordy in "Smartarse" Mode

[bogeyman]

A died-in-the-wool geek down the pub (he has a T-shirt with a file-encryption algorithm printed on it) swears by something called Sapphire. (?)
hth

F in "Mainframe dinosaur" mode

Saphire? Never heard of it! Probably some bastard off-spring of Ruby and a Javabean.

I'm (former) mainframe dinosaur too! MVS sysprog and s3x0 ASM developer many moons ago. Still have my ancient yellow card (c. 1980) pinned to my noticeboard (GX20-1850-4).

[Fleetwood]

A died-in-the-wool geek down the pub (he has a T-shirt with a file-encryption algorithm printed on it) swears by something called Sapphire. (?)
hth

F in "Mainframe dinosaur" mode

[bogeyman]

If you narrow down open source to PHP then you will get a load of trash. PHP is used a lot more by amateurs and fewer professionals. The best open source will always come from the same tools (Java, C++ etc) that the professionals use and normally from those that use their open source programs as a marketing tool for example Collabnet the owners of Subversion market a lot of supporting tools for Subversion.

I see your point, but I needed this to be in PHP simply because PHP is available on 99% of basic web hosting packages whereas Java isn't and C/C++ GCIs are not always an option.

Bob/DP - well, it's like anything else I suppose, use the tool well and in its proper context and you can do good things (yes, even with VB). I think there a bit of snobbery and elitism in the view that because something is easy to use, the end results must be inferior to something that's hard to use.

Clearly, it is also possible to write utter tulipe in any 'hard' language although I find C++ and Perl are particularly enabling in this respect