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  • Arturo Bassick
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    The white poppy dishonours those who have already given their lives. The red poppy already represents the things those who wear the white believe in. The white poppy is a symbol of those twisted individuals who wish to tear down everything we believe in and honour and replace them with their own ideals.

    I am rapidly losing the will to wear a red poppy these days as it IS becoming politicised and almost a war warmongering symbol.

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  • russell
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    Can we stop with the every year remeberance crap?

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  • MarillionFan
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    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    I'd forgotten them! The poppy does seem increasingly aligned with 'supp.orting our brave boys fighting abroad', and I'm getting very disillusioned by it
    The White poppy. A symbol of pacifism and cowardice

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by Freamon View Post
    Therefore:

    I'd forgotten them! The poppy does seem increasingly aligned with 'supp.orting our brave boys fighting abroad', and I'm getting very disillusioned by it

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  • Freamon
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    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    I'm firmly of the view that today is a day for remembering the horrors of war, which is a message increasingly diluted nowadays compared to when I were a lad.
    Therefore:

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by stek View Post
    Green Fields of France, Eric Bogle, mist excellently covered by the seminal 'The Men they Couldn't Hang'....
    It's not often you come across another Men they couldn't hang fan. I remember seeing them in '89. Happy days. Well here's some more Eric Bogle for the day - I'm firmly of the view that today is a day for remembering the horrors of war, which is a message increasingly diluted nowadays compared to when I were a lad.

    The Band Played Waltzing Matilda

    When I was a young man I carried me pack
    And I lived the free life of the rover
    From the Murray's green basin to the dusty outback
    I waltzed my Matilda all over
    Then in 1915 my country said: Son,
    It's time to stop rambling, there's work to be done
    So they gave me a tin hat and they gave me a gun
    And they sent me away to the war

    And the band played Waltzing Matilda
    When the ship pulled away from the quay
    And amid all the tears, flag waving and cheers
    We sailed off for Gallipoli

    It well I remember that terrible day
    When our blood stained the sand and the water
    And how in that hell they call Suvla Bay
    We were butchered like lambs at the slaughter
    Johnny Turk, he was ready, he primed himself well
    He rained us with bullets, and he showered us with shell
    And in five minutes flat, we were all blown to hell
    He nearly blew us back home to Australia

    And the band played Waltzing Matilda
    When we stopped to bury our slain
    Well we buried ours and the Turks buried theirs
    Then it started all over again

    Oh those that were living just tried to survive
    In that mad world of blood, death and fire
    And for ten weary weeks I kept myself alive
    While around me the corpses piled higher
    Then a big Turkish shell knocked me arse over head
    And when I awoke in me hospital bed
    And saw what it had done, I wished I was dead
    I never knew there was worse things than dying

    Oh no more I'll go Waltzing Matilda
    All around the green bush far and near
    For to hump tent and pegs, a man needs both legs
    No more waltzing Matilda for me

    They collected the wounded, the crippled, the maimed
    And they shipped us back home to Australia
    The armless, the legless, the blind and the insane
    Those proud wounded heroes of Suvla
    And when the ship pulled into Circular Quay
    I looked at the place where me legs used to be
    And thank Christ there was no one there waiting for me
    To grieve and to mourn and to pity

    And the Band played Waltzing Matilda
    When they carried us down the gangway
    Oh nobody cheered, they just stood there and stared
    Then they turned all their faces away

    Now every April I sit on my porch
    And I watch the parade pass before me
    I see my old comrades, how proudly they march
    Renewing their dreams of past glories
    I see the old men all tired, stiff and worn
    Those weary old heroes of a forgotten war
    And the young people ask "What are they marching for?"
    And I ask myself the same question

    And the band plays Waltzing Matilda
    And the old men still answer the call
    But year after year, their numbers get fewer
    Someday, no one will march there at all

    Waltzing Matilda, Waltzing Matilda
    Who'll come a-Waltzing Matilda with me?
    And their ghosts may be heard as they march by the billabong
    So who'll come a-Waltzing Matilda with me?

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  • SimonMac
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    For The Fallen - Laurence Binyon

    With proud thanksgiving, a mother for her children,
    England mourns for her dead across the sea.
    Flesh of her flesh they were, spirit of her spirit,
    Fallen in the cause of the free.

    Solemn the drums thrill; Death august and royal
    Sings sorrow up into immortal spheres,
    There is music in the midst of desolation
    And a glory that shines upon our tears.

    They went with songs to the battle, they were young,
    Straight of limb, true of eye, steady and aglow.
    They were staunch to the end against odds uncounted;
    They fell with their faces to the foe.

    They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
    Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
    At the going down of the sun and in the morning
    We will remember them


    They mingle not with their laughing comrades again;
    They sit no more at familiar tables of home;
    They have no lot in our labour of the day-time;
    They sleep beyond England's foam.

    But where our desires are and our hopes profound,
    Felt as a well-spring that is hidden from sight,
    To the innermost heart of their own land they are known
    As the stars are known to the Night;

    As the stars that shall be bright when we are dust,
    Moving in marches upon the heavenly plain;
    As the stars that are starry in the time of our darkness,
    To the end, to the end, they remain.

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  • stek
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    Green Fields of France, Eric Bogle, mist excellently covered by the seminal 'The Men they Couldn't Hang'....

    Well, how do you do, Private William McBride,
    Do you mind if I sit down here by your graveside?
    And rest for awhile in the warm summer sun,
    I've been walking all day, and I'm nearly done.
    And I see by your gravestone you were only 19
    When you joined the glorious fallen in 1916,
    Well, I hope you died quick and I hope you died clean
    Or, Willie McBride, was it slow and obscene?

    Did they Beat the drum slowly, did the play the pipes lowly?
    Did the rifles fir o'er you as they lowered you down?
    Did the bugles sound The Last Post in chorus?
    Did the pipes play the Flowers of the Forest?

    And did you leave a wife or a sweetheart behind
    In some loyal heart is your memory enshrined?
    And, though you died back in 1916,
    To that loyal heart are you forever 19?
    Or are you a stranger without even a name,
    Forever enshrined behind some glass pane,
    In an old photograph, torn and tattered and stained,
    And fading to yellow in a brown leather frame?

    The sun's shining down on these green fields of France;
    The warm wind blows gently, and the red poppies dance.
    The trenches have vanished long under the plow;
    No gas and no barbed wire, no guns firing now.
    But here in this graveyard that's still No Man's Land
    The countless white crosses in mute witness stand
    To man's blind indifference to his fellow man.
    And a whole generation who were butchered and damned.

    And I can't help but wonder, no Willie McBride,
    Do all those who lie here know why they died?
    Did you really believe them when they told you "The Cause?"
    Did you really believe that this war would end wars?
    Well the suffering, the sorrow, the glory, the shame
    The killing, the dying, it was all done in vain,
    For Willie McBride, it all happened again,
    And again, and again, and again, and again.

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  • SimonMac
    started a topic Lest We Forget

    Lest We Forget

    In Flanders fields the poppies blow
    Between the crosses, row on row,
    That mark our place; and in the sky
    The larks, still bravely singing, fly
    Scarce heard amid the guns below.

    We are the Dead. Short days ago
    We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
    Loved and were loved, and now we lie,
    In Flanders fields.

    Take up our quarrel with the foe:
    To you from failing hands we throw
    The torch; be yours to hold it high.
    If ye break faith with us who die
    We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
    In Flanders fields.

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