After loosing thousands on HIPS training

[TheFaQQer]

This is third party company offering this not linked to a supplier but i see your point, this is definately the show stopper question to ask.

Potentially, it's something that might make it more of a goer - if you can get the company to install them for free and then change supplier so you get the bulk of the money, then go for it!

[Support Monkey]

If the supplier is providing the panels, then they keep the FiT that you generate. Your account sells the electricity to the National Grid, and you essentially hand the FiT over to the provider of the panels.

The question is, what is to stop you switching your account, so that you now don't have any relationship with (e.g.) e.On? If you don't have that relationship, then how do they know what you have generated and how much they are owed? A friend of mine used to work for Centrica and one of the things baffling their legal team was how to offer such a scheme without running the risk of the homeowner switching accounts and keeping the FiT for the panels on their roof.

As for a new owner, some people think that they are ugly and don't want the house defaced by them. If you aren't keeping the FiT then the benefits aren't that great to the home owner, to be honest.

This is third party company offering this not linked to a supplier but i see your point, this is definately the show stopper question to ask.

I cannot see anyone buying my house being concerned about the panels looking ugly unless they clash with their shell Suit

[TheFaQQer]

i have asked for a consultation so that will be 4 hours of my life wasted with a salesman but the supplier question is one i had not thought off, i cannot see how it would effect your supplier i would assume they are selling back to the grid not the individual supplier but need to clarify, i would expect this to become a good selling point if your bills are cheaper and cannot see why anyone would want them removing but then there is no accounting for peoples strange ideas, the speel says the contract for renting the roof space just passes to the new owner

If the supplier is providing the panels, then they keep the FiT that you generate. Your account sells the electricity to the National Grid, and you essentially hand the FiT over to the provider of the panels.

The question is, what is to stop you switching your account, so that you now don't have any relationship with (e.g.) e.On? If you don't have that relationship, then how do they know what you have generated and how much they are owed? A friend of mine used to work for Centrica and one of the things baffling their legal team was how to offer such a scheme without running the risk of the homeowner switching accounts and keeping the FiT for the panels on their roof.

As for a new owner, some people think that they are ugly and don't want the house defaced by them. If you aren't keeping the FiT then the benefits aren't that great to the home owner, to be honest.

[Support Monkey]

There isn't one, unless you want to sell your house and the new people don't want to have the panels on there.

What is worth checking is whether there is any restriction which would prevent you from switching suppliers after getting them installed for free, and whether that restriction would be legal. If not, then you could potentially get them on a freebie, then swap supplier and keep the feed in tariff yourself.....

i have asked for a consultation so that will be 4 hours of my life wasted with a salesman but the supplier question is one i had not thought off, i cannot see how it would effect your supplier i would assume they are selling back to the grid not the individual supplier but need to clarify, i would expect this to become a good selling point if your bills are cheaper and cannot see why anyone would want them removing but then there is no accounting for peoples strange ideas, the speel says the contract for renting the roof space just passes to the new owner

[EternalOptimist]

i swapped my electricity the other day and they had some links to companies offering the system for nothing you basically rent out your roof space for 25 years and they take the feed back money and you get the electricity when you need it, wheres the catch?

sounds fantastic. free money eh ?

except for the oldies in fuel poverty whose fuel bill will go even higher in order to pay for your free money. Then they will have the choice of eating or staying warm. I guess some of them will choose to freeze on a full stomache
still, we must stop this runaway warming somehow

[TheFaQQer]

i swapped my electricity the other day and they had some links to companies offering the system for nothing you basically rent out your roof space for 25 years and they take the feed back money and you get the electricity when you need it, wheres the catch?

There isn't one, unless you want to sell your house and the new people don't want to have the panels on there.

What is worth checking is whether there is any restriction which would prevent you from switching suppliers after getting them installed for free, and whether that restriction would be legal. If not, then you could potentially get them on a freebie, then swap supplier and keep the feed in tariff yourself.....

[ChrisPackit]

Wasn't the HIP pack the most useless thing ever!?!?

Everyone jumping on the HIPS bandwagon; people going to college to learn about it; Estate Agents charging a fortune for one....

I read the government website and did my own for £60.00

[TimberWolf]

i swapped my electricity the other day and they had some links to companies offering the system for nothing you basically rent out your roof space for 25 years and they take the feed back money and you get the electricity when you need it, wheres the catch?

Bigger tax bill?

[Support Monkey]

i swapped my electricity the other day and they had some links to companies offering the system for nothing you basically rent out your roof space for 25 years and they take the feed back money and you get the electricity when you need it, wheres the catch?

[TimberWolf]

I read an article recently that said solar voltaic panels had been crashing in price recently. Though sadly this may have had more to do with supply issues than technological breakthroughs.

[Paddy]

hahhahahaha, hahhahaha, hahhahahahhahahahah

<breathes>

hahahhahahahahahahha

omg. I'm splitting me sides here. all those strutting, holier than thou, prius owning, smug, hairy @rsed, 'i love the planet more than you', 'its not subsidised' ponces
will have to pay their fair whack.

sigh


present company excepted of course

+ 1

[TheFaQQer]

hahhahahaha, hahhahaha, hahhahahahhahahahah

<breathes>

hahahhahahahahahahha

omg. I'm splitting me sides here. all those strutting, holier than thou, prius owning, smug, hairy @rsed, 'i love the planet more than you', 'its not subsidised' ponces
will have to pay their fair whack.

sigh


present company excepted of course

But they won't pay their fair whack - if they get them installed and registered before December 12th, then you'll get the old tariff

[EternalOptimist]

I decided to invest the rest of my money generating electricity and making use of the feed in tarrif

Oops

hahhahahaha, hahhahaha, hahhahahahhahahahah

<breathes>

hahahhahahahahahahha

omg. I'm splitting me sides here. all those strutting, holier than thou, prius owning, smug, hairy @rsed, 'i love the planet more than you', 'its not subsidised' ponces
will have to pay their fair whack.

sigh


present company excepted of course

[Spacecadet]

I decided to invest the rest of my money generating electricity and making use of the feed in tarrif

Oops