Red Ken's latest: don't flush your toilet

Re: Great advert for London 2012

don’t flush the lavatory if you have just had a pee

The dirty fecker. Maybe that sort of behaviour is acceptable in Ken's socialist house, but in my house we thankfully still have standards and a sense of dignity.

Once this island successfully ruled a third of the globe and built roads and railways across some of the world's most extreme environments. Now we can't even afford to flush the toilet. I blame comprehensive education.

Great advert for London 2012

Only a few days before the vote in Singapore and Red Ken comes up with this. Oh well, you may say it was a foregone conclusion (Paris) but still it has done us no favours. Third world country image or what. Surprising really when you go to places like Cyprus that have no restrictions placed whatsoever with no rainfall at all and a huge no of tourists running the taps in the hotel rooms all day long.
BTW, was Red Ken who said that London needs another million or so new houses for the influx of newcomers ???

Re: Livingstone

What a load of cr@p, pardon the pun.

Water is a nearly limitless resource on this planet, which is made up of about 70% water. Red Ken's talking as if it was oil or something !

There is more than enough water to go round our little isle.

What I suspect has happened is that all the extra monies raised from increased water bills by the greedy and incompetent water utilities has been poorly spent on "bodge it and plaster it jobs", such is the attitude of the majority of the UK.

Now they are realising that the plasters are coming off the plasters which are coming off the plasters and are sh1tting (pun intended) themselves. They can't ask the government for money, they can't raise the water bills again, so they are spreading scare stories to the media, in the hope that consumption will ease off a bit. When it doesn't, then they can raise bills, on the justification that they told us so and we didn't listen and now have to face the conssequences.

For goodness sake, we are being manipulated once again.

Ok, reverse the question. How much can I pay in water bills, so I dont have to worry about hosepipe bans and all the other rubbish, and can just get on with using as much water as i like, since i'm paying for a service and hence it should be there on tap ? (pun intended)

Livingstone

Wasn't it Ken who recently vetoed plans for a desalination plant on the Thames that would've helped with the water shortages?

I remember being in Rhodesia some years ago visiting friends over Christmas (they had just bought a load of goldmines) and they hadn't finished building their house. The actual house was just the wooden frame with sacks used as walls which were coated with cement. The toilet and bathroom facilities were still to be built therefore to have a Richard you had to walk a few hundred meters from the house where a hole about 10 foot deep and around 6 foot by 3 foot wide had been dug. Over this hole were a couple of planks upon which you precariously balanced and did your stuff. For the poor unfortunate who fell in the bathroom was around 2 miles away which was just a big concrete circle filled with water which was used for irrigation purposes. :x

I always got up to find I had shat on my heels

Thats why they soak you from the waist down when you flush them, then!

hattra in "hanging from the bog door" mode

Little shelves?

What about those wierd things they have in France where you squat over a sort of shower base with a couple of little raised platforms to stand on. I always got up to find I had shat on my heels.

We should go back to old days, when it was illegal for the hoi polloi to have anything except a bare earth floor and they pissed in the corner - once a year the saltpeter man came round and dug your floor up, so they could use the saltpeter to make gunpowder

Over here in Germany I flush the toilet as much as I need. A quick push only sends a litre or so while a big one does a bit more. Nearly all of them are like that (and they have little shelves so you can inspect your 'doings')

We should do what the Elizabethans did. Pee on the curtains. If you use a new bit each time, there should always be a dry bit you can use.

Socialists absolutely relish shortages and rationing, as it gives them a chance to boss others around and eliminate personal choice.

You forgot to mention they love war, death and famine as well - get a good chance to rape your daughters and eat your babies.

> Mayor says drastic measure is needed if London is to avoid a disaster

I thought they'd spent billions on the London ring main, which was supposed to fix all that.

Socialists absolutely relish shortages and rationing, as it gives them a chance to boss others around and eliminate personal choice.

We're on a water meter here so I don't allow more than one flush a day per user.

Extra points are given to family members who go to the loo when visiting friends.

Nothing wrong with that if you just take a piss - lived in Aus for ages where it's pretty standard.

Makes a huge difference for something so painless, especially in the sarf where you get water shortages ever summer pretty much.

Save water: don't flush, says Livingstone
By Sam Coates and Tosin Sulaiman

Mayor says drastic measure is needed if London is to avoid a disaster
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KEN LIVINGSTONE has told Londoners not to flush the lavatory after relieving themselves.

The Mayor of London said that dramatic action was needed to prevent an acute water shortage and painted a vision of standpipes in the streets if nothing is done.

Mr Livingstone made the comments while inaugurating a public education campaign to promote water conservation. He said that he could ask ministers for an immediate hosepipe and sprinkler ban if the situation deteriorated. Modifying lavatory habits was an important part of this programme, he said.

“The quickest and most dramatic impact is, don’t use a sprinkler or hose in the garden, don’t use a hose to wash your car and don’t flush the lavatory if you have just had a pee,” he told a press conference at City Hall yesterday.

Londoners use an average of 165 litres of water every day, higher than the national average of 150 litres and about one third higher than other European cities.

Climate change, population growth and lifestyle changes are placing increasing demands on London’s water supply. Mr Livingstone also said that he would ask the Government for powers to bring in “compulsory water-metering” in the capital to reduce water consumption in the long term. Demand could outstrip supply by 6 to 10 per cent by the end of the decade, he said.

“I want Londoners to make small changes to save water without affecting their quality of life,” he said. “We need to take action now to better manage our water supply, so that we can avoid shortages and mandatory restrictions in the future.”

Flushing lavatories put a particular burden on the water system. The standard domestic facility uses 7.5 litres of water per flush. New dual-standard lavatories use only 4.5 litres when partially flushed. But a spot inspection by The Times of the lavatories at City Hall revealed two urinals in the gents’ flushing continually even when not being used for long stretches.

In the cubicles, only one out of four lavatories was unflushed in the men’s, and one out of seven in the ladies’, although a sign informed users in both that they used recycled water.

Roger Evans, the Conservative environment spokesman on the London Assembly, said: “If this issue of water usage is so great that we have to consider such unappealing solutions then why has the mayor waited so long to act?”

Visitors to City Hall yesterday were also appalled. Chandra Charma, from Kent, said: “That’s disgusting. If water’s such an issue, how come their grass is always kept nice and green?”

Discussions about when to flush have often been hampered by a very British embarrassment at the subject. During the last water shortage the headmistress of Haberdashers’ Aske’s School in Elstree, Hertfordshire, told pupils at assembly: “If it’s yellow, let it mellow; if it’s brown, flush it down”.

At last year’s British Invention Show in London, the top prize went to the man behind a device that is fitted to lavatories that makes them flush only while the handle is pressed. Judges praised the Interflush system as the biggest water-saving device in years. The device saves 47 per cent of the water usually used in the flush and can cut £50 a year from household water bills.

In the US, urinals have started to appear in home bathrooms, frequently at the instigation of the man, who promises that it will help to keep the floor dry.

Ozzy Osborne has one in his California home, as does Curtis Martin, of the New York Jets, who recommended them to men so that their wives would not nag them about lowering the seat.