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Previously on "Turkey to provide armed escort to Gaza ships-this should be interesting"

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  • Incognito
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    Annex XI: Israel's continuing responsibilities
    It was understood that, subsequent to the Israeli withdrawal, Israel would continue to be responsible for external security, and for internal security and public order of settlements and Israelis. Israeli military forces and civilians would be allowed to continue using roads freely within the Gaza Strip and the Jericho area.
    And the UN Palmer report states:
    Israel faces a real threat to its security from militant groups in Gaza...The naval blockade was imposed as a legitimate security measure in order to prevent weapons from entering Gaza by sea and its implementation complied with the requirements of international law.
    Gaza flotilla raid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Turkey are making this worse, Israel will allow humanitarian aid over land borders they control. All they want to do is restrict the import of what they class as 'dual role' I.e concrete for making bunkers etc. The idiots on the flotilla are trying to escalate this into a full blown conflict.

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  • Paddy
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    [QUOTE=Incognito;1390191]The Oslo accords ceded full authority for defence against external threats to Israel, that is what gave Israel authority to exert their control over Palestinian airspace and waters. That is why their Naval blockade has not been ruled illegal by the UN (it has been criticised though).

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    I have just read it and it does not say that.

    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    So that would be Turkey and possibly NATO minus USA vs Israel + USA.

    Germany would also never take part in attack against Israel and in all probability try to defend it instead.

    It's more likely the Army in Turkey would remove the PM.
    AtW you are just a twat, at least Incognito puts up an agument, you just say crap.

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  • Incognito
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    Originally posted by Troll View Post
    It will be interesting to see how effective the Yankee RIM-162 Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile is
    16 missiles per ship, all it takes is Harpoon number 17 and it's good night.

    Oh by the way DimPrawn, how the hell have the Turks got the JSF 5 years ahead of schedule? You been Wiki'ing again?

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  • Troll
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    Think it's time for more Gold & Oil shares.....

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  • Troll
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    Originally posted by Incognito View Post
    What a washout that would be. As soon as Turkish warships enter Israeli waters, Israel has every right under International law to dispel them from their territory. Turkish warship life expectancy against Israeli F-16s about 1min 45s (flying time).

    Turkey would be the aggressor here, NATO common defence pact wouldn't come into play.

    This is Turkey just trying to play Billy big balls in the middle east now they know they've no chance of joining the EU
    It will be interesting to see how effective the Yankee RIM-162 Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile is

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by Paddy View Post
    Turkey is also a NATO member, Israel is not. The waters off of Gaza are not Israeli.
    So that would be Turkey and possibly NATO minus USA vs Israel + USA.

    Germany would also never take part in attack against Israel and in all probability try to defend it instead.

    It's more likely the Army in Turkey would remove the PM.

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  • Incognito
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    Originally posted by Paddy View Post
    Turkey is also a NATO member, Israel is not. *The waters off of Gaza are not Israeli.
    The Oslo accords ceded full authority for defence against external threats to Israel, that is what gave Israel authority to exert their control over Palestinian airspace and waters. That is why their Naval blockade has not been ruled illegal by the UN (it has been criticised though).

    NATO's collective defence policy calls on member states to assist when a member is attacked. In this case Turkey would be seen as the aggressor. At least that is what the US would say.

    Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
    Turkey has 232 F-16s of their own and 116 F35As too.

    However, they would be the ones flying into most probably one of the top five air defence systems in the world.

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  • Paddy
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    Originally posted by Incognito View Post
    What a washout that would be. As soon as Turkish warships enter Israeli waters, Israel has every right under International law to dispel them from their territory. Turkish warship life expectancy against Israeli F-16s about 1min 45s (flying time).

    Turkey would be the aggressor here, NATO common defence pact wouldn't come into play.

    This is Turkey just trying to play Billy big balls in the middle east now they know they've no chance of joining the EU
    Turkey is also a NATO member, Israel is not. The waters off of Gaza are not Israeli.

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  • DimPrawn
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    Originally posted by Incognito View Post
    What a washout that would be. As soon as Turkish warships enter Israeli waters, Israel has every right under International law to dispel them from their territory. Turkish warship life expectancy against Israeli F-16s about 1min 45s (flying time).

    Turkey would be the aggressor here, NATO common defence pact wouldn't come into play.

    This is Turkey just trying to play Billy big balls in the middle east now they know they've no chance of joining the EU
    Turkey has 232 F-16s of their own and 116 F35As too.

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  • Incognito
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    What a washout that would be. As soon as Turkish warships enter Israeli waters, Israel has every right under International law to dispel them from their territory. Turkish warship life expectancy against Israeli F-16s about 1min 45s (flying time).

    Turkey would be the aggressor here, NATO common defence pact wouldn't come into play.

    This is Turkey just trying to play Billy big balls in the middle east now they know they've no chance of joining the EU

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  • DodgyAgent
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    Originally posted by Troll View Post
    In other words "my Willy is bigger than yours, what are you going to do about it?"

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  • Turkey to provide armed escort to Gaza ships-this should be interesting

    hmmm

    Reports in the Israeli press suggested that Mr Lieberman could even announce plans to meet and even finance Turkey's Kurdish rebels.

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