Reply to: Shortage of Engineers in the UK.

[doodab]

Oh I don't know. Germany seems to be full of bitter, impoverished, medicocre expats.

I wouldn't know, I live in south west London now.

I noticed someone I know is looking for a SAS/SQL bod and rates are about comparable with what I was earning in the fatherland. I might tap him up. It can't be that hard.

[sasguru]

That's another thing, It's full of smug *******.

Oh I don't know. Germany seems to be full of bitter, impoverished, medicocre expats.

[doodab]

Oh I don't know. Life in a nice area of London is very pleasant and my sector is booming.

That's another thing, It's full of smug *******.

[scooterscot]

Nobody is ever going to get this nation's engineering industry back again with political change.

The unions tried for years to down play the industry always painting the "the engineer" as a salt of the earth type working on the line with his grubby overalls and milky tea and to be defended because they never earned enough. Engineering is though of as a lower class industry.

We went from the great egg race to the apprentice. Heinz Wolf to Sugar, Professor of Engineering to Labour knighted barrow boy pedaling quick rich scheme ideas to children. Thanks feck I will be retired by the time his young fans get into the office place and think aggressive one up man ship is better than collaborative work practices.

I needn't tell you engineering experience out here is somewhat different.

[shaunbhoy]

Oh I don't know. Life in a nice area of London is very pleasant and my sector is booming.

In your sector, I have heard you described as "the cream" sasguru.
The thick bit you get at the top obviously!

[sasguru]

I returned to the UK a few months ago. My current plan is to get out permanently ASAP. It's a tuliphole and the job market is ****ed.

Oh I don't know. Life in a nice area of London is very pleasant and my sector is booming.

[conned tractor]

[craig1]

The killer for the UK will be when the last UK worker is outsourced or Bob'ed and all the big consumer facing companies wonder why no-one can afford to buy their products.

Place I'm at now announced huge successes in their efficiency and customer complaints reduction efforts then in the next paragraph said that that meant they no longer needed 600 people and those jobs would be outsourced. Yay for business ethics and employee relations!

[doodab]

Airports must be in chaos every couple of weeks as hordes of CUK'ers and their friends rush to leave the country after each latest bit of bad news!

Form what I have seen, it seems most UK airports are in chaos more or less constantly.

[Doggy Styles]

Airports must be in chaos every couple of weeks as hordes of CUK'ers and their friends rush to leave the country after each latest bit of bad news!

[doodab]

I returned to the UK a few months ago. My current plan is to get out permanently ASAP. It's a tuliphole and the job market is ****ed.

[DimPrawn]

As the numpty from the CBI makes clear there is no "skills shortage" there is just a shortage of people who can afford to take a job at the tulipe rates that Bob and Oleg can take - and are all the CBI will pay so that they can continue to jack up pay at the top levels in a way that bears zero relation to performance.

We are all being shafted royally by a very few people.

The parties have also stictched up the voting system so UKIP have no chance at all of getting any power in our parliament.

Which pretty much leads me to conclude that for many people the best option is to start a new life in Australia, New Zealand, Singapore or Canada. Not perfect places, but a much brighter future for many.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

As the numpty from the CBI makes clear there is no "skills shortage" there is just a shortage of people who can afford to take a job at the tulipe rates that Bob and Oleg can take - and are all the CBI will pay so that they can continue to jack up pay at the top levels in a way that bears zero relation to performance.

We are all being shafted royally by a very few people.

The parties have also stictched up the voting system so UKIP have no chance at all of getting any power in our parliament.

[doodab]

What happened to gumption?

[minestrone]

Nobody is ever going to get this nation's engineering industry back again with political change.

The unions tried for years to down play the industry always painting the "the engineer" as a salt of the earth type working on the line with his grubby overalls and milky tea and to be defended because they never earned enough. Engineering is though of as a lower class industry.

We went from the great egg race to the apprentice. Heinz Wolf to Sugar, Professor of Engineering to Labour knighted barrow boy pedaling quick rich scheme ideas to children. Thanks feck I will be retired by the time his young fans get into the office place and think aggressive one up man ship is better than collaborative work practices.