Reply to: Knowledge Management

i'm not in Chav speak 'having a pop',

I'm not sure that expression is one frequently used by the chavs. They would more likely say, "u havin' a farking larf, mate? Taking the p1ss, init? Smack ya outside the head, boy. Cor, mutha die, chicken eyebrow, boy!"

forgive me Chico, only teasing.

was a good debate though

Milan.

Not sure what you mean by big companies but this company is the global leader in its field. Chances most people on this board are customers of this company. I will say no more or my cover will be blown. Zorro must stay masked.

I doubt it will though,

I only do assignments at big companies, not interested in the noddy smb's thanks

Milan.

Fair deuce - at least I know where you stand if your CV ever came before me.

"You are all talk and no action ",

Chico, it pays the bills though dunnit !

Just don't tell the Boss

Milan.

Wageslave,

nothing personal and i'm not in Chav speak 'having a pop', just teasing and trying to catch Chico out, he used you as his defence and you became and accessory and got caught in the cross-fire.

Milan.

There's nothing wrong with Noddy organisations.

I'd be more worried about the Big Ears ones...

”a window into other Noddy organisations more like”Why are they Noddy organisations? The founders of the site happen to be KM experts from BP; not exactly a noddy organisation. Or is it noddy because you don’t rate knowledge management, and therefore anyone and anything associated with it are a joke in your eyes?

”if the organisation was worth any salt they'd be with a vendor offering a scalable integratable solution with a proper road map, and in that case, the people in the organisation would be chatting on a discussion forum provided by the vendor with customer only logins, therefore keeping out the nonsense chatter provided by the folks who populate technology discussions on the likes of yahoo groups.”So in order to be serious a company has to sign up with Cap Gemini, IBM or Microsoft? I’ve worked with clients who have bought in the help of such companies and it’s not always successful.
A previous client of mine undertook an SAP implementation, without understanding the root of their problems or considering the consequences of such an implementation. Did the fact that it was SAP magic away all their problems? Of course not. Technology can be a vital solution to a client’s problems, but it would be a mistake to think it is the only possible solution.

”problem is in life, once people like you have a cv populated with Noddy organisations you will never get into the big corporations and onto the real big projects using enterprise software”
I’m not quite sure why you’ve chosen to have a pop at me. I try to find the best solution for a client; sometimes that’s a major piece of enterprise software, sometimes it’s a packaged solution like MS Sharepoint, and sometimes it’s all about human systems and processes.

Interesting side point that jumped up in this discussion that probably splits our community into two. Those who are paid by the hour and want to drag out producing a solution as long as possible and those who try to get the job done quickly, efficently and hope for repeat business.

Bit like two garage owners. When you take your car in to change the exhaust. one owner trys to get you to change your tyres and says your brakes are about to fail. The other just changes your exhaust and hope they did a good enough job that you'll come back when you need your tyres and wheels sorting.

Not saying which business model is better but our little community splits in two. "You need a new system with all the latest technology and bells" OR "we'll try and improve what you've already got". Interesting ...

As an aside, I've always found that there are a few key personnel who have knowledge that is not written down anywhere and they're the people you need to talk to, but never be able to find. Catch 22 really since at the beginning of producing the solution, you won't know what's missing in the organisation.

You are all talk and no action so step aside.
Wageslave stand up and take a bow - You are the MAN!!

Chico,

the difference between you and I,

I have nothing to prove and therefore no need to present the defence you are asking for.

However my questions have demonstrated you are indeed talking guff and living in la-la-land.

Milan.

Ok Milan you can talk the talk but can you walk the walk? Why don't offer us some real world examples of where you were involved in a succesful knowledge management strategy were the expectations set out in the original vision brief was met. You should also describe how big the technology solution was and what part .NET played in it. Its time to put up or shut up.

hmmm,

' However, such forums are useful as they provide a window into other organisations. '

a window into other Noddy organisations more like

if the organisation was worth any salt they'd be with a vendor offering a scalable integratable solution with a proper road map, and in that case, the people in the organisation would be chatting on a discussion forum provided by the vendor with customer only logins, therefore keeping out the nonsense chatter provided by the folks who populate technology discussions on the likes of yahoo groups.

and that's a fact !

problem is in life, once people like you have a cv populated with Noddy organisations you will never get into the big corporations and onto the real big projects using enterprise software

c'est la vie

Milan.

can I suggest you ignore the poor man's unquanitifiable chatter in your KM discussion on Yahoo Groups and perhaps spend it bit of money and get some substantiated advice from someone like Gartner ?

Milan, your post was obviously intended as a p1ss take. However, such forums are useful as they provide a window into other organisations. They offer an opportunity to discuss with others what has and hasn’t worked in previous projects, and what lessons were learnt.

Designing and implementing a solution to meet a client’s needs is rarely about building a new IT system. Clients often claim to know the problems of their organisation, but this is rarely true. It is important to ascertain whether, for example, the client really does need a spanking new CRM system, or whether they would be better off training their staff to be more efficient and customer focused.