Reply to: Accidenture

[threaded]

Isn't Denmark taxation higher even without IR35?

A common misconception. In my circumstances I end up with more in my pocket in Denmark than I would in England.

[Francko]

They are indeed, and it's Englands loss, all due to IR35: a particularly short sighted and vindictive piece of legislation IMHO.

Isn't Denmark taxation higher even without IR35?

[threaded]

They are indeed, and it's Englands loss, all due to IR35: a particularly short sighted and vindictive piece of legislation IMHO.

There again without IR35 I would probably still be writing dodgysoft for whatever lame brain organisation was paying my fee this week.

So it's swings and roundabouts.

[stackpole]

I'm a non-advising director of a financial services company and that the company specifically looks for ethical investments for our clients.

How many simultaneous high-flying jobs do you have, threaded? I'm surprised you find the time for all your designing and inventing as well. You are like Leonardo Da Vinci meets Donald Trump meets William Hague.

Not to mention your cycling, touring in your multiple Lambos, and posting on here. You are magnificent. Denmark is very lucky to have you.

[threaded]

I would like to chip in that in one part of my comul I'm a non-advising director of a financial services company and that the company specifically looks for ethical investments for our clients.

Does surprisingly well, not only do we have clients that are attracted to us because of the ethical investments, the companies and funds we invest in do much better than the average as well.

Business entrepreneurs survive on competition and profit. A social entrepreneur looks beyond profit to try and fundamentally change for the better the system he is working within.

Many times; less can be more.

[Mordac]

are you an eco-warrior

a contractor with a concience ?

only joking Mordy, it's nearly the weekend

how's your old mate MF, he's been quiet this year

how are his tat shops ?

Milan.

Yes I do have a bit of a conscience. I'd at least like to think if I did a tulip job I wuoldn't get any more contracts off that particular client. If only the same applied to the big boys.

MF is OK, he's waiting for the sprog to drop. I spoke to him the other day. I didn't ask about the tat shop (I think he's back down to one now) but he's gone back contracting.

[Denny]

They may be "Accidental HR" or whatever, but they still took my details from another site and entered them on their own system without consulting me. I wouldn't have minded, but for the fact it was for a junior firewall engineer position, paying £22K. I've never been a firewall engineer, junior or otherwise. One of them might have had the decency to actually read my CV, or even speak to me beforehand. So as far as I'm concerned, professional they ain't. And I have had an interview with Accenture, (for a contract role) which went swimmingly until the HR interview. Upon which the spotty grad picked up his script and asked me what my career aspirations within Accenture were. My answer was "to be in a position to negotiate a renewal in 3 months time".
Completely f**ked his script, and I didn't get the job. Apparently HR goons carry equal weight in the selection process. No wonder they are full of brown-nosing feckwits.

HR are pretty terrible in most organisations, from my experience of them.

I had a similar interview with an agency a while back - a face-to-face with the recruiter in their office. Normally, I don't entertain that idea at all, but I was up in town and I thought 'what the hell' if it means a chance of this contract.

The recruiter then started asking me all sort of permie type questions - what would be your ideal role? What sort of role are you really aspiring toward, what are your strengths and weaknesses and so on. I just cut across him at this stage without really answering any of them and told him that these were inappropriate questions for an interim and that told him that it was irrelevant to ask contractors permie questions like 'how did I see myself in 5 years time and so on.' I was careful to point out that relevance and getting to the point was intrinsic to the nature of my role so I got away with it. He soon shut up and got down to the nitty gritty of the contract details, rates etc. I still got forwarded for the role and am awaiting the outcome.

[Mordac]

They may be "Accidental HR" or whatever, but they still took my details from another site and entered them on their own system without consulting me. I wouldn't have minded, but for the fact it was for a junior firewall engineer position, paying £22K. I've never been a firewall engineer, junior or otherwise. One of them might have had the decency to actually read my CV, or even speak to me beforehand. So as far as I'm concerned, professional they ain't. And I have had an interview with Accenture, (for a contract role) which went swimmingly until the HR interview. Upon which the spotty grad picked up his script and asked me what my career aspirations within Accenture were. My answer was "to be in a position to negotiate a renewal in 3 months time".
Completely f**ked his script, and I didn't get the job. Apparently HR goons carry equal weight in the selection process. No wonder they are full of brown-nosing feckwits.

[Denny]

Just got an email from their HR monkeys, thanking me for applying for a junior firewall engineer position (22K ), and inviting me to update my "online profile".
"Curious," thinks I, for I have never (and would never) apply for Accidenture, having encountered them in the wild.
ANyway, I logged in, ticked a few boxes (skills, education etc. - I left the career aspirations section blank ) and got to the covering letter page, upon which I entered the following:

Please disregard this application, as it was not made by me. One of your over-zealous HR cretins entered my details without my permission.
I do not feel I would be suitable for a career with Accenture, as most of my projects have been successfully delivered.

(minus the banana, their webtulipe won't take smileys for some strange reason)

What do you reckon, will I get called for interview or not? Failing that, can I sue the bollocks off them for using my data without permission?

For your information, those HR Accentidure monkeys, as you call them, are part of an outsourced legal entity called Accenture HR - they are not part of the Accenture parent company. They also work for BT and other large organisations.

I worked for Accenture parent company on a project a few years back and before them for various short term assignments and I found them to be very professional and on-the-ball outfit. A bit nepotistic maybe, but far better than some organisations I've worked for.

I guess each to their own.

[thunderlizard]

ugh, industrial estates. 48 year old blokes with straggly beards, cartoon ties, button-down collars and suits with practically no elbows left.

I had a short term contract on one back in my student days, and they were so stressed out about the deadline for their noddy reporting database that I had one of them giving me an overview of the requirements while another one was giving me the compulsory health and safety briefing at the same time.

[milanbenes]

are you an eco-warrior

a contractor with a concience ?

only joking Mordy, it's nearly the weekend

how's your old mate MF, he's been quiet this year

how are his tat shops ?

Milan.

[Mordac]

Basingstoke was years ago. Normally, I'd agree with you, but I absolutely draw the line at Accenture. Call me old fashioned, but I don't happen to share their ethos, which is basically unprintable, for obvious legal reasons.

[milanbenes]

I'm not so choosy as yourself, call me old fashioned I don't mind having such names on my cv as people I have contracted to

you stick with your Noddy SME's as customers I am sure you have lots of fun working from industrial estates in interesting places like basingstoke completing your windows 2000 upgrades

Milan.

[Mordac]

Milan, having encountered them in the past, I would rather have my eyes gouged out by a blunt teaspoon than be "employed" by Accenture. My rate probably put them off anyway.

The same goes for Atos, btw.

[milanbenes]

you're smart,

will be very useful to have that on their system
if you ever contract for them

you remain, da man !

Milan.