Reply to: Rates Are Depressing

[Sysman]

Rates drop off a cliff when you leave London, so I'm not sure what you can expect to earn in some small farming town like Ipswitch. £300 does not sound too bad in fact!

Anyhow I'm not sure why they'd need Java developers out there. I thought it was all combine harvesters and cider.

BT used to have an office there.

I quite enjoyed a short stint in Ipswich (not at BT).

[Magic]

Yes, un-usual in that they are a figment of your imagination.

A quick search of your previous posts highlights your contradictions regarding your rate.

Following on from my previous I find that most people are smart enough to understand they need to specialise but when the masses are doing this with a view that they cannot outsource this to Bob it has the effect of driving down the rates.

Just type your selected any <wish> career path into jobserve and it is going to give you a reasonable view of the market. Even though I see it is tough for most people including the Bobs to beat me for the jobs my rate it pretty much now dropped to where it was in 2000. This means working in banking which is most probably the most sh1t area to find yourself. Littered with demi Gods and ego's of tw@ts of the highest order who think they are actually good. sh1t and I thought as I got older life would get easier, wtf happened

[Clippy]

So 550-600 that i have been getting for the last few years are unusual?

confused

Yes, un-usual in that they are a figment of your imagination.

A quick search of your previous posts highlights your contradictions regarding your rate.

[centurian]

So 550-600 that i have been getting for the last few years are unusual?

Yes.

Very unusual for a rural area. Basically you've been overpaid for the market. Nice if you can get it - and well done for making it last for a few years. You might also be lucky/skillful enough to land another one at the rate. But it ain't the market rate for Ipswich.

[AtW]

So 550-600 that i have been getting for the last few years are unusual?

Is that inc VAT?

[DeludedAussie]

WHS. Rates top out at about £400 in the more rural areas - anything more would be incredibly niche - and likely to be quite short term.

£300 seems about right for the area

So 550-600 that i have been getting for the last few years are unusual?

confused

[centurian]

Rates drop off a cliff when you leave London, so I'm not sure what you can expect to earn in some small farming town like Ipswitch. £300 does not sound too bad in fact!

WHS. Rates top out at about £400 in the more rural areas - anything more would be incredibly niche - and likely to be quite short term.

£300 seems about right for the area

[Shimano105]

I am working on my own software projects in my spare time, you got to be working on a plan B as there is going to be bugger all left in 5 to 10 years.

Weren't we saying that in 2001?

[scooterscot]

Rates drop off a cliff when you leave London, so I'm not sure what you can expect to earn in some small farming town like Ipswitch. £300 does not sound too bad in fact! .

Rates rocket when you reach the continent.

[swamp]

Rates drop off a cliff when you leave London, so I'm not sure what you can expect to earn in some small farming town like Ipswitch. £300 does not sound too bad in fact!

Anyhow I'm not sure why they'd need Java developers out there. I thought it was all combine harvesters and cider.

[Doggy Styles]

I've just started a new job on the best rate I've ever been on. However that could mean:

All my previous rates were crap

Bobs aren't yet into what I do

[OwlHoot]

"Role/Culture: If you played Star Trek as a kid, you would have been Dr Spock, every time" ..

To take on all that for £30K you'd have to be a tribble.

(unless it was a stepping stone for bigger and better things elsewhere)

[amcdonald]

You can fly to Eastern Europe and get a good quality surgeon dirt cheap. Nothing´s safe not even heart surgery.

Of fly to India and get it for plenty cheapness, and Bobs your uncle

[russell]

No, even though I still code now and then, pretty much Architect role for the last ten, mainly now trying to put some in where it was thrown together by the clueless. See it happening more and more over the last few years. Managers who think 'Open Source' means you can just plug and play and it will work.

Yeah I have seen that happening, however I think more and more clients are seeing that open source + bobs != cheapness in the long run. The plus side is they hire you to sort it out.

[Magic]

I work in IB, and my experience is that only the low level roles go to bobs, not Architects or specialised roles. If you have been doing "Data Warehousing" for that long and can still be replaced by a bob I guess you have been doing more SQL scripting type roles for web sites etc.

No, even though I still code now and then, pretty much Architect role for the last ten, mainly now trying to put some in where it was thrown together by the clueless. See it happening more and more over the last few years. Managers who think 'Open Source' means you can just plug and play and it will work.