Reply to: The Scheme - Episode 3

[MarillionFan]

The Scheme meets British Wrestling

This movie is a classic. "Get yee, you ****". Worth a watch when you have time.

[minestrone]

Public sector would never allow it to happen.

[Scrag Meister]

What f's me off is the fact that those who are given benefits are under no pressure to do anything for their handout, I do understand there are cases that can't, disabled for instance. There is no ROI on benefits and there should be.

Even if they had to do 10 hours a week community service or similar to enhance their local area it would be something. Park maintenance, cutting communal grass, removing graffiti etc.... loads that could be done with zero additional skills if they got off their backsides.

[russell]

I say keep benefits but those that are able to work , make them do community work or no benefit money. In a year the country would be a different place.

[Churchill]

What's wrong? Your giro late you working class, one CSE Northern chimp?

Ladies and Gentlemen, I thank you.

[MarillionFan]

Typical rantings of a middle-class tory w4nker.

What's wrong? Your giro late you working class, one CSE Northern chimp?

[Churchill]

Its this last comment that pisses me off. Not that you are unique in expressing it. Far from it.

The longer term unemployed are ill educated and the majority have a 'better than thou' attitude. They won't wait tables, pick up litter, clean toilets, work in McDonalds! These people have it installed that their self worth are higher than others and deserve more. Hence we get better educated , poorer people to come in to do the work.

I'm proud to have done all those jobs(I didn't do MaccyDs though). To me it is more important to work, thats self worth, not the 'quality' of work. Remember your tulip smells as much as the next person.

Typical rantings of a middle-class tory w4nker.

[MarillionFan]

And TBH we need to do something about the quality of work as well, a lot of minimum wage jobs would still be demeaning if they paid 10x as much.

doodab in used to be poor once mode.

Its this last comment that pisses me off. Not that you are unique in expressing it. Far from it.

The longer term unemployed are ill educated and the majority have a 'better than thou' attitude. They won't wait tables, pick up litter, clean toilets, work in McDonalds! These people have it installed that their self worth are higher than others and deserve more. Hence we get better educated , poorer people to come in to do the work.

I'm proud to have done all those jobs(I didn't do MaccyDs though). To me it is more important to work, thats self worth, not the 'quality' of work. Remember your tulip smells as much as the next person.

[Churchill]

"How do you keep the natives off the booze long enough to pass the test?" Asked of a Scottish driving instructor in 1995.

[doodab]

Nah. You're 'avin a laugh again. Current benefit levels are £50 a week? No bugger could survive on that and no bugger would choose it.

Sadly an awful lot of people choose that and supplement it with a bit of "borrowing". I don't think we should abolish benefits cos there are some truly needy people out there, but there are also those who take the piss.

What we really need to get rid of is the situations where most of the wage earners in a family are out of work long term. And TBH we need to do something about the quality of work as well, a lot of minimum wage jobs would still be demeaning if they paid 10x as much.

doodab in used to be poor once mode.

[MarillionFan]

Nah. You're 'avin a laugh again. Current benefit levels are £50 a week? No bugger could survive on that and no bugger would choose it.

Add in free prescriptions, dental, council tax, rent and then recalculate that toots!

[Zippy]

Brrrrrrrrr. They may not necessarily be a smack head but oxygen thief.....

90% of people on benefits could take a job, it's just that 'minimum wage' is an insult. Some people are to proud and precious to take 'work', because that work means cleaning, waiting, service etc.

Benefits are a travesty. They kill effort and a work attitude. I once claimed a weeks 'income support' when I was 19 and I still feel ashamed. And for the record, this is my real view not a CUK troll. I have no time for it or the people who
claim it.

Nah. You're 'avin a laugh again. Current benefit levels are £50 a week? No bugger could survive on that and no bugger would choose it.

[MarillionFan]

Because not everyone who gets benefits is a smack head or an oxygen thief?

Brrrrrrrrr. They may not necessarily be a smack head but oxygen thief.....

90% of people on benefits could take a job, it's just that 'minimum wage' is an insult. Some people are to proud and precious to take 'work', because that work means cleaning, waiting, service etc.

Benefits are a travesty. They kill effort and a work attitude. I once claimed a weeks 'income support' when I was 19 and I still feel ashamed. And for the record, this is my real view not a CUK troll. I have no time for it or the people who
claim it.

[Zippy]

Why the **** do we not ban benefits!!!??

Because not everyone who gets benefits is a smack head or an oxygen thief?

[MarillionFan]

Just and endless line of public sector workers trying to make out it is all out fault.

Of course, the 16 year old knocked up by the 20 year old heroin addict (who looked like a 12 year old) was given a new flat. 'yeah I'm getting a new kitchen. I'm getting a new bathroom. He spends all his giro on smack!'. Nothing wrong with that model. :

Why the **** do we not ban benefits!!!??