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[Spacecadet]

I've found the reference to what I mentioned earlier about Neanderthals and their stone axe obsession. It was actually an earlier hominid, from whom presumably Ned and we liberated the technology off.



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And now we have Angry Birds to while away entire hours with

[TimberWolf]

like I said, there is very strong evidence that we nicked the flint technologies from them. There is also very strong evidence that they couldnt vocalise. Thats a real impediment to abstract thinking

which is what we are good at

I've found the reference to what I mentioned earlier about Neanderthals and their stone axe obsession. It was actually an earlier hominid, from whom presumably Ned and we liberated the technology off.

SOMETIME ABOUT A million and a half years ago, some forgotten genius of the hominid
world did an unexpected thing. He (or very possibly she) took one stone and carefully used it
to shape another. The result was a simple teardrop-shaped hand axe, but it was the world’s
first piece of advanced technology.

It was so superior to existing tools that soon others were following the inventor’s lead and
making hand axes of their own. Eventually whole societies existed that seemed to do little
else. “They made them in the thousands,” says Ian Tattersall. “There are some places in
Africa where you literally can’t move without stepping on them. It’s strange because they are
quite intensive objects to make. It was as if they made them for the sheer pleasure of it.”

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[EternalOptimist]

Neanderthal man may not have been as stupid as he looked


(that's a woman by the way)

Why Neanderthal man may not have been as stupid as he looks - Science, News - The Independent

like I said, there is very strong evidence that we nicked the flint technologies from them. There is also very strong evidence that they couldnt vocalise. Thats a real impediment to abstract thinking

which is what we are good at

[TimberWolf]

Neanderthal man may not have been as stupid as he looked


(that's a woman by the way)

Why Neanderthal man may not have been as stupid as he looks - Science, News - The Independent

[TimberWolf]

it is amazing. I often look around me to see if there is any vestigal neanderthalism around. Slopey forhead, chinless knuckle draggers. Inarticulate.

have you seen any around here lately ?

The description conjures an image of a male of the species, but presumably the women were just as bad. Imagine that, an inarticulate woman!

[EternalOptimist]

Sounds like cutting edge technology.

it is amazing. I often look around me to see if there is any vestigal neanderthalism around. Slopey forhead, chinless knuckle draggers. Inarticulate.

have you seen any around here lately ?

[TimberWolf]

well they were constantly making breakthroughs. from knapping, to heat treating to core. iirc.

Sounds like cutting edge technology.

[EternalOptimist]

Apparently there are places in the world where so many axe heads have been discovered, which are believed to be of Neatherthal origin IIRC, that it's not known why they did it. They appear to have gone technology mad.

well they were constantly making breakthroughs. from knapping, to heat treating to core. iirc.

they probably had specialists, and they had bugger all to do in the winter, except drink beer , fornicate, drool and make spear points.

[TimberWolf]

yep. the arrow heads I'm on about are not from the last ice age, they are from 50k years ago. And the last I heard, we nicked the technolgy from the neanderthals.

This is where the idea comes from that we might have had a hand in wiping the neanderthals out

Apparently there are places in the world where so many axe heads have been discovered, which are believed to be of Neatherthal origin IIRC, that it's not known why they did it. They appear to have gone technology mad.

[EternalOptimist]

Equally your life might have been as you regale here from time to time, of the time when you were skint. What about that life? And that would still be a better life stlye than that experienced by the majority of humans on the planet, allegedly.

maybe we should have a poll. I'll be voting short, nasty and brutish

[TimberWolf]

lets see, I could live the exiting life of a hunter gatherer and die of old age when Im twenty
or I could drink beer, drool and fornicate till I am too old, then give my grandkids hell.

shoot TW , thats a toughie

Equally your life might have been as you regale here from time to time, of the time when you were skint. What about that life? And that would still be a better life stlye than that experienced by the majority of humans on the planet, allegedly.

[EternalOptimist]

Oi! That was a series of unfortunate unconnected hunting accidents.

They asked some redskins why they saved the serated and barbed points for the enemy, when they would guarantee a better chance of a hunting kill.
The answer was very practical - there are plenty of deer, and it takes ages to make an arrow. an ordinary arrow will fall out if you dont make a clean kill ,allowing it to be recovered.

With an enemy, you dont want it to come out. If it doesnt kill him, at least he will die of gangrene, or some witch doctor will have to gouge it out.

very nice

[EternalOptimist]

You're thinking like a paleface. They took some persuading to give up their miserable existence to live like a white man.

lets see, I could live the exiting life of a hunter gatherer and die of old age when Im twenty
or I could drink beer, drool and fornicate till I am too old, then give my grandkids hell.

shoot TW , thats a toughie

[Old Greg]

yep. the arrow heads I'm on about are not from the last ice age, they are from 50k years ago. And the last I heard, we nicked the technolgy from the neanderthals.

This is where the idea comes from that we might have had a hand in wiping the neanderthals out

Oi! That was a series of unfortunate unconnected hunting accidents.

[EternalOptimist]

So, just after we learnt to talk

yep. the arrow heads I'm on about are not from the last ice age, they are from 50k years ago. And the last I heard, we nicked the technolgy from the neanderthals.

This is where the idea comes from that we might have had a hand in wiping the neanderthals out