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[OwlHoot]

One is a scientific theory, the other is religious hogwash.

Creationism ISNT a science and therefore SHOULD NOT be taught during science lessons.

Sure...teach the bloody rubbish during RE...but not during Science!

Mailman

Agree, but it certainly should be taught somewhere, or at least mentioned (as the word "taught" suggest an attempt to drum it into schoolkids' heads as accepted fact). I mean what's the problem teaching say Greek mythology in classics classes? Comes in handy in pub quiz nights.

The snag is, trying to suppress it might have the perverse effect of giving it to some kids the appeal and glamour of "forbidden" topic, not that the vast majority of kids these days would give it credence for a second having seen so many documentaries about dinosaurs and geology etc, all of which clearly demonstrate the vast timescales of Earth's history. (I think creationists claim that all this geological and cosmological evidence has been planted by Satan to lead believers astray!)

Mind you, it must be said, the first creation account in Genesis does at least get the presently accepted order of creation roughly right, even if the timescales are compressed, if one insists on a literal meaning of the word "day".

(Oh, and Chico, we've discussed this before, and you haven't forgotten have you that the Bible contains _three_ accounts of creation. So which one would you suggest is taught? )

[OwlHoot]

will they also learn about our Flat Planet also

Flat planet? Nonsense - the Good book refers to the four corners of the Earth. So obviously God created it in the shape of a tetrahedron (three-sided pyramid), until Noah's flood came along and washed away the corners.

[sasguru]

are you seriously saying that belief in creationism has anything to do with brainpower ?? if so , you are an idiot.

Some of the smartest people ever born have believed in this religious sh1te. The answer lies somewhere else, maybe understanding delusions etc. but calling them thick is wrong.

Only going by the evidence, old bean.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religio...d_intelligence

And you're right, some of the cleverest people historically believed in creationism but only because there was no other plausible theory or evidence at the time.
Modern techniques like carbon dating and the fossil record provide ample evidence that the world was not created in 7 days a few thousand years ago.
Anyone who believes in creationism now has to be stupid, so yes belief in creationsim has to do with brain power.

[EternalOptimist]

SASGuru

are you seriously saying that belief in creationism has anything to do with brainpower ?? if so , you are an idiot.

Some of the smartest people ever born have believed in this religious sh1te. The answer lies somewhere else, maybe understanding delusions etc. but calling them thick is wrong.

[Sysman]

Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster

A ROW blew up last night over plans to teach kids the Bible story of creation in SCIENCE lessons.

GCSE pupils will study the Christian fundamentalist belief that God literally made the world in six days.

This was one Yank's reponse to similar moves in the US:

Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster

http://www.venganza.org/

[threaded]

I suppose they could then discuss brain function and how it is people experience odd things in times of stress.

[sasguru]

How do they study it? If you study science, they can teach you how the theories were developed based on evidence and experiementation. Studying creationism is just saying "because it says so in this book written thousands of years ago by people who weren't around to witness the events". Short lesson.

You missed a bit:

"because it says so in this book written thousands of years ago by people who weren't around to witness the events. This book (and others like it saying different things) are nevertheless believed by quite a few people in this world. These people tend to be on more hard of thinking side".

[VectraMan]

GCSE pupils will study the Christian fundamentalist belief that God literally made the world in six days. :

How do they study it? If you study science, they can teach you how the theories were developed based on evidence and experiementation. Studying creationism is just saying "because it says so in this book written thousands of years ago by people who weren't around to witness the events". Short lesson.

[Denny]

GCSE pupils will study the Christian fundamentalist belief that God literally made the world in six days.

Was he freelancing or psuedo employed?

[sasguru]

I'm all for creationism to be taught alongside evolution in schools. The clever will weigh the evidence and plump for evolution. Some of the thick will go for creationism, but who cares? There will always be stupid people with us.

[expat]

It makes you happy that kids are going to be brainwashed?

Shall we teach them that they can put their hand in a fire and they won't be burned? Maybe we should teach them to cross the road when the little man is red instead of green.

Chico, you are one sick ****!

It makes me happy that education where I grew up is in the hands of the devolved parliament. I don't think the'y go for this stuff.

[threaded]

Yes, but there is only so much time on the curriculum, and putting religious hogwash in there won't help.

[MrsGoof]

will they also learn about our Flat Planet also

[thunderlizard]

First off, you should all listen to what the great man Bill Hicks had to say on this very point back in the early 90s (yes, the US has already been there).

Second, throughout the history of science, scientific theories have often come up against received wisdom, and there's often been a ruckus. It's wholly appropriate for kids to appreciate this within the context of a science lesson. They'll get a chance to see how the scientific case is put against the religious one. I don't think there's anything to be gained by bypassing this. If there's going to be a context in which both theories are discussed, it's as well that this happens in a science lesson, and in the discourse of science, as in an RE lesson.

[Mailman]

One is a scientific theory, the other is religious hogwash.

Creationism ISNT a science and therefore SHOULD NOT be taught during science lessons.

Sure...teach the bloody rubbish during RE...but not during Science!

Mailman