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Previously on "Not yer average Wilmslow thread"

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  • AtW
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    Hmm, some directories on that disk got corrupted - so much for "rebuild" RAID6.

    Time to format and copy data from backup.

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  • doodab
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    Originally posted by fullyautomatix View Post
    Why did it crash then?
    There is no such thing as 100% reliability.

    A proper RAID adapter will be doing patrol reads in order to catch bit rot, which means that it will spot errors that might otherwise go unnoticed (kind of the point really). When you have a unrecoverable read error rate of 1 in every 10^15 bits read then on an array using 6 x 2TB disks you would expect to see an unrecoverable read error every 10th time through or so, on average. Obviously you need to factor in reads from actual workload as well. So the chances of two errors on two separate disks aren't as slim as you might imagine.

    Also, drives fail more than the MTBF numbers suggest and are correlated so after a single failure, another is actually more likely.

    http://labs.google.com/papers/disk_failures.pdf

    http://www.usenix.org/events/fast07/.../schroeder.pdf

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by fullyautomatix View Post
    Why did it crash then?
    That's a million dollar question.

    Either way we've learnt a few things today, good thing I never trusted that capitalist RAID thingy ...

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  • fullyautomatix
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    Hitachi UltraStars + Areca 1880 SAS + SuperMicro servers

    Tat? Maybe.

    Cheap? No.
    Why did it crash then?

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by Mr.Whippy View Post
    What cheap tat are you using?
    Hitachi UltraStars + Areca 1880 SAS + SuperMicro servers

    Tat? Maybe.

    Cheap? No.

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  • Mr.Whippy
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    All is in tact and we also had backups, but nevertheless we will now assume RAID6 can go off at any time - card gone wrong, then 2 disks failed, good thing we have spares...
    What cheap tat are you using?

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  • stek
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    All is in tact and we also had backups, but nevertheless we will now assume RAID6 can go off at any time - card gone wrong, then 2 disks failed, good thing we have spares...
    From an earlier thread of mine;

    # uptime
    03:27PM up 1306 days, 2:12, 4 users, load average: 0.22, 0.33, 0.35

    That's raid5, three node HACMP cluster.

    This one's Linux isn't it? Screen shot looks Linuxy....
    Last edited by stek; 24 March 2011, 18:23. Reason: OSX 10.7 Dev Preview grammar/spell checker quite annoying...

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by conned tractor View Post
    Why, no data left?
    All is in tact and we also had backups, but nevertheless we will now assume RAID6 can go off at any time - card gone wrong, then 2 disks failed, good thing we have spares...

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  • ThomasSoerensen
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    be a man and use raid 0

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  • conned tractor
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    Well, nothing can go wrong now...
    Why, no data left?

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by Churchill View Post
    Sorry. Just got the address from your website.
    It's Birmingham Science Park Aston, the other science park is also called Birmingham Science Park apparently...

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  • Churchill
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post


    That's not where we are based...
    Sorry. Just got the address from your website.

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by Churchill View Post
    Birmingham Science Park (sh/c)ould be bombed...


    That's not where we are based...

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  • Churchill
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    Well, nothing can go wrong now...
    Birmingham Science Park (sh/c)ould be bombed...

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  • AtW
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    Well, nothing can go wrong now...
    Last edited by AtW; 24 March 2011, 13:53.

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