Reply to: If the UK is scrapping the Harrier...

[Churchill]

I'm a cockney who moved to Yorkshire, I never had a chance to begin with!

Commiserations. Yorkshire by choice? No hope for you.

[SimonMac]

That and the fact that you're from Yorkshire really f*cks up your chances, eh?

I'm a cockney who moved to Yorkshire, I never had a chance to begin with!

[Churchill]

I knew it before QI, but then again I was a socailly inept child and lacked friends so read a lot

That and the fact that you're from Yorkshire really f*cks up your chances, eh?

[SimonMac]

Yes, I watch QI too

I knew it before QI, but then again I was a socailly inept child and lacked friends so read a lot

[EternalOptimist]

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Did you know the inventor of Subbuteo wanted to call it "HOBBY" but couldn't get the trademake so used the latin name of the Bird Of Pray called Hobby

you are getting confused. A hobby is a bird of prey.
You were thinking of the Italian wine, kestrel. The name was already taken by a beer, so they called it Blue Nun, after a bird of pray



god, im bored

[Churchill]

Let me know when they are scrapping some reasonably good APCs.

HTH

You can buy those now.

News article

[AtW]

Let me know when they are scrapping some reasonably good APCs.

HTH

[Pogle]

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Did you know the inventor of Subbuteo wanted to call it "HOBBY" but couldn't get the trademake so used the latin name of the Bird Of Pray called Hobby

Yes, I watch QI too

[Ignis Fatuus]

Because the Septics are running everything and they don't like us, especially when we do something that is cleverer than them, eg Concorde.

To be fair, they did buy the Harrier and represent it as US technology (as I noticed when I visited the NASA museum in Washington DC).

As far as buying one goes - no doubt we're shipping the last few off to the remaining dodgy dictatorships we are mates with this week.

ISTR that the US as NATO partner vetoed our sale of Harriers to China some years ago, then sold a batch of aircraft to the Chinese themselves instead.

Our relationship with the USA is indeed a special one.

[ratewhore]

Couple this with the cost of getting it airworthy again and getting the original parts suppliers to buy back in to make parts for maintenance, and it gets very expensive.

At least they have a Haynes manual available!!

[minsky1]

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Email Kevin Stone, the crew chief of the vulcan to the sky project ..... he will put you in touch with the right people.
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Otherwise known as Taff when I used to work with him...

...interesting news about them buying a Harrier though.

Yep.... presumably the Harrier would be a much cheaper daily runabout (than the Vulcan). I think he mentioned the Vulcan cost around 15k a day to run at airshows. Couple this with the cost of getting it airworthy again and getting the original parts suppliers to buy back in to make parts for maintenance, and it gets very expensive.

Running a Harrier or two in comparison would be no problem.

[TykeMerc]

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Did you know the inventor of Subbuteo wanted to call it "HOBBY" but couldn't get the trademake so used the latin name of the Bird Of Pray called Hobby

I didn't, but it's interesting in one of those schoolboy nerdy ways

[ratewhore]

[QUOTE=minsky1;1302812]Email Kevin Stone, the crew chief of the vulcan to the sky project ..... he will put you in touch with the right people.
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Otherwise known as Taff when I used to work with him...

...interesting news about them buying a Harrier though.

[SimonMac]

There was one on eBay for 60k a few weeks ago.

On the subject of harriers, did you know that the Latin name for Hobby is Falco Subbuteo? Funny play on words that.

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Did you know the inventor of Subbuteo wanted to call it "HOBBY" but couldn't get the trademake so used the latin name of the Bird Of Pray called Hobby

[Peoplesoft bloke]

not an expert, but I understand that the main strength of vtol was in the dogfight. this was halved in effectiveness with the hi tech heat seeking air to air, then almost negated by the 360 heat seeking air to air. (i.e. you can fire a heat seeker at the front of an enemy from 12 miles away , then turn and go home)
still useful for taking off from a jungle clearing, but just not enough jungles these days

Isn't it more to do with vectored thrust and the ability to keep an inherently unstable piece of composite in the air by technology now?