24 hrs to save the NHS - yea ... right

[BobTheCrate]

LIAM BYRNE MP
Health Minister

Presumably subordinate to Hewitt.

[wendigo100]

I loved the "smug and patronising minister" bit. What a typically sickening, deceitful & slimy Labour minister he was.

I missed it - who was the minister? I cannot imagine how anyone can be as sickening, patronising, deceitful & slimy as Ms Hewitt, the current minister.

[sasguru]

A totally free NHS was a dumb idea in the first place.

Agreed.

[threaded]

A totally free NHS was a dumb idea in the first place.

[sasguru]

Fact is the NHS can't be saved. In an era of increased longevity and increased choice of treatment, demand will be tending to the infinite with finite resources. A totally free NHS has to end. It's an impossibility.

[Bagpuss]

are we talking about the next series of 24?

[mcquiggd]

Perhaps pensioners would be best employed as suicide bombers against nu labour.... might take em a while to catch up with two jags though....

[bfg]

Whose hands do you think it would be safe in?

Subsidiary question if you say The Tories: are you old enough to remember the Thatcher years?

Yes I am old enough to remember the Thatcher years. I still hate and despise her. That said, not as much as I hate and despise this new lot. They tax like a Labour government, provide less than a Tory government to those who have paid those taxes and are more controlling and convinced of their own importance and superiority over the rest of us than a fascist government.

[Jabberwocky]

That's pure suppository expat me old mate.

[expat]

Who ever said the NHS was safe in New Labour hands ?

Whose hands do you think it would be safe in?

Subsidiary question if you say The Tories: are you old enough to remember the Thatcher years?

[BobTheCrate]

One contributor summed up many of my sentiments very well ...

Well done Panorama... excellent programme. Sickening exposure of a Labour government who champion the NHS while undermining us all with a system of us having to pay for our illness, dotage and deterioration in old age.

The smug and patronising minister left us all in no doubt that they see this as the way forward and are prepared to ignore the law. The elderly have a vote and have paid for the NHS services over their lifetime. They have a very basic right to benefit from the legally established right to funding for their care. Thank goodness for the media such as Panorama. Don't let it go - keep after them on this one.

G Bird, Suffolk

Well said indeed Mr or Ms Bird.

I loved the "smug and patronising minister" bit. What a typically sickening, deceitful & slimy Labour minister he was.

[BobTheCrate]

And so said New Labour just before the '97 General election.

What sort of NHS have we now ?

We have an increasingly politicised NHS that has already started down the avenue of planning what type of person is entitled to care and who is not. Arbitrarily decided by the jobsworth senior NHS managers.

Anyone watching Panorama also witnessed the NHS policy of a few years now, illegally grabbing the homes of elderly people to pay for their NHS care.

And how much extra is it costing the tax payer for this New Labour style of NHS ?

Who ever said the NHS was safe in New Labour hands ?