Reply to: Nuclear explosion in Japan

[TimberWolf]

the dose they received was 180 millisieverts.

Though according to this site and the Wiki, the dose they received to their ankles is estimated at between 2Sv and 6Sv

[TimberWolf]

Scaremongering bulltulip.

Average background radiation over a day (assuming you don't live in Cornwall) is 10 microsiliverts.

10,000 times this is 100 milisiliverts

About the same as 17 CT scans (tulip lets get rid of CT scans they are radiation monsters!!!!)

This should give you an idea of just how good that is all things considered:

http://xkcd.com/radiation/

If they are going to hospital with only 100 milisiliverts of radiation it's completely normal and there is nothing to see here. Back in your box AtW

The 10,000 times figure is useless for a lot of reasons, not least because a time period isn't mentioned.

were sloshing about in water containing iodine, caesium and cobalt 10,000 times the normal level

Natural background radiation is tiny from these isotopes, except after nuclear reactors go bang, the biggest natural sources being potassium-40, carbon-14 and uranium IIRC.

Anyway this article says though they suffered 'radiation burns', the dose they received was 180 millisieverts. Not enough to kill, but enough to risk increased probability of cancer (100 mSv in a year), if received in a whole year. In one dose it is worse. I don't imagine they will see any more action.

[Ardesco]

Japan crisis: nuclear workers exposed to 10,000 times more radiation than normal - Telegraph

Now what **** was saying how little radiation those workers who risked their lifes will get?!?!?!

Scaremongering bulltulip.

Average background radiation over a day (assuming you don't live in Cornwall) is 10 microsiliverts.

10,000 times this is 100 milisiliverts

About the same as 17 CT scans (tulip lets get rid of CT scans they are radiation monsters!!!!)

This should give you an idea of just how good that is all things considered:

http://xkcd.com/radiation/

If they are going to hospital with only 100 milisiliverts of radiation it's completely normal and there is nothing to see here. Back in your box AtW

[AtW]

Japan crisis: nuclear workers exposed to 10,000 times more radiation than normal - Telegraph

Now what **** was saying how little radiation those workers who risked their lifes will get?!?!?!

[TimberWolf]

All reactors at all locations in Japan are said to be in a "safe and stable" condition

edit: Scrub that. The entire announcement was:

A few people have been asking about the other nuclear plants (aside from Fukushima Daiichi). The IAEA says all units at Fukushima Daini, Onagawa and Tokai plants are in "safe and stable" condition.

The BBC ticker tape didn't show the whole text.

So Fukushima Daiichi is still on-going. Not sure why this made breaking news.

[TimberWolf]

BERLIN, March 15 (Xinhua) -- German Chancellor Angela Merkel said Tuesday that seven nuclear power station built before 1980 would be temporarily shut down during the three-month moratorium on nuclear extension plan.

Germany to temporarily shut down seven nuclear plants

[TimberWolf]

[gingerjedi]

I am becoming seriously anti-nuclear now (apart from military nukes).

What do you propose we use to meet the worlds growing energy needs? Coal? Oil? Oligarchs gas? Mass extermination using said military nukes?

[shaunbhoy]

Sky news now reporting Japanese government now saying one of the reactor's containment vessels is damaged at the bottom, hinting at serious radiation leak.

[suityou01]

Sky news now reporting Japanese government now saying one of the reactor's containment vessels is damaged at the bottom, hinting at serious radiation leak.

[TimberWolf]

Breaking news Newsnight "Big explosion" at reactor #2

[AlfredJPruffock]

OK for those who doe't know about MOX (Reactor Three)


What is MOX fuel?

Fuel consisting of a mixture of uranium and plutonium oxides is referred to as a MOX (mixed oxide) fuel. Uranium fuel consists of enriched uranium in which the concentration of uranium 235 -- the combustible element in natural uranium -- is artificially increased. In MOX fuel, by contrast, anything from 4 to 9 percent plutonium is used in place of enriched uranium to mix with natural uranium or with the uranium that is left after enrichment (i.e., depleted uranium).

Japan's MOX Program

Part of Japan's nuclear policy is to implement the MOX utilization program; that is, to irradiate MOX fuel in conventional light water reactors (LWRs). Because of the fact that discussions are still under way with the local governments and citizens, the commercial use of MOX fuel has yet to begin. Nevertheless, as mentioned at the outset, Japan, scarce in energy resources, is continuing its policy of establishing a nuclear fuel cycle. MOX utilization, therefore, remains a crucial part of completing the fuel cycle. The Japanese electricity industry intends to continue its efforts to garner support and understanding from related parties in order to carry out the MOX utilization program in accordance with this policy

[TimberWolf]

Gamma Radiation In Fukushima-Downwind Ibaraki Disclosed, 30 Times Above Normal | zero hedge

(not something to run around like a headless chicken about, but worth watching)

I'd been looking at that page over the day or so too. They removed survey sites around Fukushima (saying "under survey") and now the site doesn't work at all.

[AlfredJPruffock]

Those lullaby stories (originating from the nuclear industry I guess) that might have been worth the time of day yesterday are starting to look silly now. Things are obviously not going well and the Japanese government are asking for international help.



Let's hope the wind direction is not towards a major city if it does blow. It won't be a nuclear blast of course, just a dirty release.

IF reactor Three does go into full meltdown mode - bearing in mind the enriched Plutonium that they have been using in that reactor Three since last August - then makes its way into the atmosphere - it will by a grave challenge not only for Japan but the World.

[AtW]

I am becoming seriously anti-nuclear now (apart from military nukes).