Reply to: Study Strengthens Link between Virus and Weight Gain

[Fleetwood]

Dust?

[hyperD]

Yes Fungus. If you keep an eye on a porker it isn't long before they are slipping a sly bun, burger or mars bar down their neck, and therein lies the real problem.

I once saw two pregnant welsh porkers in a coffee shop, tucking into a table-full of cream cakes. Half-way through they paused to put sweeteners in their coffee.

I stayed with a family and the mother and daughter were porkers. Every meal was salad, bruscetta, chicken and loads of veg. Very strange I thought, why are they so fat?

Then in between meals they would snack non-stop, including crisps, sweets, cakes, several spring rolls... basically eating the equivalent of 8 square meals a day.

So fat people simply eat too many cakes. If you stop the cake eating you will not gain weight. If you rapidly reduce your calorie intake you will have to allow for your metabolism rate change.

[lukemg]

Fat people may have a predisposition to weight gain but don't be fooled, they shovel it in. Either at work, in the car on the way home, or secret stashes. Fat bird I worked with admitted she used to go to the shop on the way home, stuff crisps and chocolate down then have a salad or something with hubby for tea, 'she doesn't eat hardly anything' I am sure he would tell people. Just another example of nothing being anyone's fault, it must be an illness or society making it happen. People are designed for intense physical activity for hours each day as a result of evolutionary requirements. This also gives us a taste for fat and sweet foods as a means of fuel. When the activity is replaced by cars, a desk job and access to unlimited food, the result is inevitable.
Whenever you see articles about some bint who has lost 8 stone (I am always thinking why did you get so fat in the first place) they always say they were eating packets of biscuits and constantly stuffing food in. Another bloater I worked with ate ALL DAY, constantly grazing on crisps, chocolate or sweets.
Thing is, girls support this by telling each other they look great, then when they go out, there is always some bloke prepared to put a bid in fuelled by wife-beater !
Eat less or use up more.

[TheMonkey]

You also forget society's creation through media:

"Smoke yourself thin".

[stackpole]

Yes Fungus. If you keep an eye on a porker it isn't long before they are slipping a sly bun, burger or mars bar down their neck, and therein lies the real problem.

I once saw two pregnant welsh porkers in a coffee shop, tucking into a table-full of cream cakes. Half-way through they paused to put sweeteners in their coffee.

[Fungus]

How odd. Most of the fatties I know eat huge amounts, and their diet includes lots of rich fatty foods. I would feel sick were I to eat like them. Maybe I'm way off here, but I have a sneaky feeling there's a connection.

Just look at the UK. Obesity is becoming a problem as per the US, whereas 20 years ago it was much less of a problem. And the diet has worsened, with increased consumption of ready meals, crisps, McDonalds, take away pizzas, and so on.

Look at the Chinese. All the ones I've met are thin and eat a low fat diet high in vegetables and boiled rice. Obviously no connection.

No need for tedious pseudo-intellectual bollux.

Hohum.

[TheMonkey]

And I used to work on Paxil/Seroxat. The friend you mention was 14 stone to start with? That's hardly a normal weight for a woman is it? It sounds like she was predisposed to putting on weight.

There is a weight gain issue in a small minority of patients treated with SSRIs but in the case of Paxil this was investigated by the FDA before the drug was licensed and they were satisfied with the outcome. Please don't believe all the rubbish you read on the web, there's money in them there lawsuits. I've taken Seroxat in the past, I put no weight on whatsoever. As for side effects in general, which are typically nausea and dry mouth, you are talking 1-5% of a population of which a much larger proportion would be dead if they hadn't taken it. Wich is worse being dead or having a dry mouth?

That's the old lawsuits - the new ones are starting to appear now.

GSK have a bad reputation and it's getting worse. They "alledgedly" (to cover my arse) cover up a lot of stuff from trials. I'm 2 years away from an NDA closure (I used to work there) - I will open my gob then.

[Spacecadet]

If it is a virus then i really hope it isn't an STD

[sasguru]

Unlike most people on the planet, I actually know a few things about how I work

Then why do you consume so much salt every day?

[Bagpuss]

And the antidepressant drugs (particularly SSRIs such as Paxil) have a lasting affect on the endocrine system and autoimmune function in your body, ultimately leading to differing metabolism and therefore weight gain because the metabolism is permanently slowed.

The particularly obese person I am referring to eats virtually nothing at all and when she does it is healthy and balanced in all ways. Her body's metabolism was permanently altered by the drugs. there are numerous suits against GSK due to side effects of these drugs

Unlike most people on the planet, I actually know a few things about how I work

Chocolate is not an anti-depressant - merely a source of caffiene and theobromide (temporary stimulants) which are addictive. Anti-depressants alter bodily functions in a different manor.

And I used to work on Paxil/Seroxat. The friend you mention was 14 stone to start with? That's hardly a normal weight for a woman is it? It sounds like she was predisposed to putting on weight.

There is a weight gain issue in a small minority of patients treated with SSRIs but in the case of Paxil this was investigated by the FDA before the drug was licensed and they were satisfied with the outcome. Please don't believe all the rubbish you read on the web, there's money in them there lawsuits. I've taken Seroxat in the past, I put no weight on whatsoever. As for side effects in general, which are typically nausea and dry mouth, you are talking 1-5% of a population of which a much larger proportion would be dead if they hadn't taken it. Wich is worse being dead or having a dry mouth?

[TheMonkey]

What a load of codswallop, people put weight on because they are happier. Depressed people tend to not eat as much.

And the antidepressant drugs (particularly SSRIs such as Paxil) have a lasting affect on the endocrine system and autoimmune function in your body, ultimately leading to differing metabolism and therefore weight gain because the metabolism is permanently slowed.

The particularly obese person I am referring to eats virtually nothing at all and when she does it is healthy and balanced in all ways. Her body's metabolism was permanently altered by the drugs. there are numerous suits against GSK due to side effects of these drugs

Unlike most people on the planet, I actually know a few things about how I work

Chocolate is not an anti-depressant - merely a source of caffiene and theobromide (temporary stimulants) which are addictive. Anti-depressants alter bodily functions in a different manor.

[Fungus]

What a load of codswallop, people put weight on because they are happier. Depressed people tend to not eat as much.

Chocolate is well known as an anti-depressant and mood enhancer. And then there's confort eating, when depressed people eat more.

[Bagpuss]

Seroxat / Paxil is obesity distributed by GPs .... who then deny treatment!

I've watched one person die from having that stuff (bad interraction) and one person shoot from 14 stone to 21 stone in 3 months after taking it because it badly affects the way the body metabolises fat.

What a load of codswallop, people put weight on because they are happier. Depressed people tend to not eat as much.

[TheMonkey]

Seroxat / Paxil is obesity distributed by GPs .... who then deny treatment!

I've watched one person die from having that stuff (bad interraction) and one person shoot from 14 stone to 21 stone in 3 months after taking it because it badly affects the way the body metabolises fat.

[Fungus]

I think someones been telling pork pies.