Reply to: Nokia dumps Symbian and gets into bed be with Microsoft.

[SueEllen]

As for Nokia & MS, looks a good move to me, from what i've seen of Win 7 Phone, it looks slick (If I didn't have the Iphone, it'd be that for me instead of Android) and Nokia is still a trusted, respected name so smart move for both parties IMO.

Nokia share price didn't agree and neither did my non-English speaking colleagues.

[Sysman]

As for Nokia & MS, looks a good move to me, from what i've seen of Win 7 Phone, it looks slick (If I didn't have the Iphone, it'd be that for me instead of Android) and Nokia is still a trusted, respected name so smart move for both parties IMO.

As it happens I've been reading a fair bit about Nokia since last summer, and I think they lost it. The phone I got in 2007 had me fighting not just with the interface, but with the physical buttons too. Their fancy new GUI wasn't a patch on the text interface that I had on its 1998 vintage predecessor (and I had a brief interlude with a Sony Ericsson which was a pile of poo).

Interesting comment on Nokia - Nokia: An Excess of Cleverness, where they compare it with Apple's fortunes, pretty graphs and all.

Apple can get away with this less efficient process because it produces one phone at a time. Nokia has 89 different phone models available currently in Europe (link).

[Durbs]

iphone

Bad signal sensitivity
Too fragile
Very poor battery life

I've owned both a 3G and iPhone 4 and none of those points are remotely the case in my experience.

As for Nokia & MS, looks a good move to me, from what i've seen of Win 7 Phone, it looks slick (If I didn't have the Iphone, it'd be that for me instead of Android) and Nokia is still a trusted, respected name so smart move for both parties IMO.

[Clippy]

But the HTC HD2 only shipped November 2009, which isn't a "couple of years"

Unless you got yours 7 months early, in which case it could just about be two years.

Your right, I should have quoted the exact number of days, months and years of use and not a generalisation which is out by a few months and, as a result, completely detracts from the content of my post.

[TheFaQQer]

Get with it Tone - I'm talking about Windows Mobile not Windows Phone 7.

But the HTC HD2 only shipped November 2009, which isn't a "couple of years"

Unless you got yours 7 months early, in which case it could just about be two years.

[Clippy]

Years....don't you mean months? Windows 7 mobile has not been around years. I also thing it's the other way around, their sense thing is on windows since that is the base os. MS specified the hardware requirements for the handsets and they were built to that. I've been tempted to get a windows phone, but I want to see what the iphone 5 will be like before I sign up for my next handset. I don't like the lack of storage on the windows 7 phones and the lack of a SD slot as I tend to use my phone for watching video while on the train.

Get with it Tone - I'm talking about Windows Mobile not Windows Phone 7.

[BoredBloke]

Like most, I started off using Nokia mobiles but switched to Sony Ericsson in about 2004 when they announced their joint venture.

I remember at the time thinking I was mad as Nokia's were still good phones - reliable and easy to use.

Haven't used a Nokia since and when I have come across a Nokia recently, can't believe how un-intuitive the OS is.

Reminds me of the ghastly Motorola OS in that each action requires twice as many clicks/button presses than is necessary to achieve what you want.

In this day and age, primary functions should not be more than 2 - 3 clicks/button presses away.

Have been using a HTC HD2 for a couple of years now which runs Windows Mobile.

Great piece of hardware and Windows Mobile runs quite well on it but, IMO, that is mainly to do with the fact that HTC have overlaid it with their own Sense OS which means, for primary functions, you end up using Sense and not Windows Mobile most of the time.

Wrt todays announcement, can't help but feel it is a backward step for Nokia - Microsoft probably can't believe their luck.

Years....don't you mean months? Windows 7 mobile has not been around years. I also thing it's the other way around, their sense thing is on windows since that is the base os. MS specified the hardware requirements for the handsets and they were built to that. I've been tempted to get a windows phone, but I want to see what the iphone 5 will be like before I sign up for my next handset. I don't like the lack of storage on the windows 7 phones and the lack of a SD slot as I tend to use my phone for watching video while on the train.

[Sysman]

Luck? Microsoft will end up paying $$$$$ for this.

What normally happens when someone partners with Microsoft is that they get shafted.

[portseven]

What i see is two loosers in the mobile game strugling together, both MS and Nokia have failed big time in the mobile market, now they can fail together!

Though I have a Nokia n900, very nice machine, but its very geeky. It's essentialy a full blown Linux box with a wifi modem. Get shell access by default, runs OpenSSH, Samba, Apache, Vi., etc. Not to everyones taste though. Went to a Linux conference the other week, and 90% of the people there had a n900, gives you a clue to the demographic.

[Bunk]

Luck? Microsoft will end up paying $$$$$ for this.

So by DimPrawn's reasoning, now would be the time to pile into Microsoft?

[AtW]

Microsoft probably can't believe their luck.

Luck? Microsoft will end up paying $$$$$ for this.

[Clippy]

Like most, I started off using Nokia mobiles but switched to Sony Ericsson in about 2004 when they announced their joint venture.

I remember at the time thinking I was mad as Nokia's were still good phones - reliable and easy to use.

Haven't used a Nokia since and when I have come across a Nokia recently, can't believe how un-intuitive the OS is.

Reminds me of the ghastly Motorola OS in that each action requires twice as many clicks/button presses than is necessary to achieve what you want.

In this day and age, primary functions should not be more than 2 - 3 clicks/button presses away.

Have been using a HTC HD2 for a couple of years now which runs Windows Mobile.

Great piece of hardware and Windows Mobile runs quite well on it but, IMO, that is mainly to do with the fact that HTC have overlaid it with their own Sense OS which means, for primary functions, you end up using Sense and not Windows Mobile most of the time.

Wrt todays announcement, can't help but feel it is a backward step for Nokia - Microsoft probably can't believe their luck.

[Paddy]

Bad move IMO. Had a Windows phone a few years ago and really did not get on with it. Appreciate Windows Mobile has probably moved on a few versions since my dabble but it would take a heck of a lot to get me near one again.


Nokia FAIL I reckon - oh how the mighty have fallen

I had a Windows phone in 2006. The main problem I found was that the key controls were done thru Windows. When I wanted to terminate a call by pressing the red button it could take up to up to five seconds to react thus costing me money. Windows would often get in a twist a incorrect last call would be displayed.

[Bunk]

I still fancy the N900...

Did your subtle hints to CM not work then?

[Platypus]

WHS. Have a Desire HD - fantastic bit of kit.
90% of the promise to have one device for everything is here already, the remaining 105 only let down by a bit of clunkiness.

Humm, looks like the calculator app needs some work