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Originally posted by Spacecadet View PostHas your spade finally worn out?
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Originally posted by Churchill View PostNow continue all you like but I'm going to leave it there.
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Originally posted by Churchill View PostMy statement was not anti-semitic. I fully understand your posting but do you not see that it is your interpretation, not everybody elses?
You didn't post your original "and there's that thing about the Jews" to attack anti-semitism you posted it as an attack on me. That attack has failed because my original post was not anti-semtic and I add again that I am not an anti-semitist.
Now continue all you like but I'm going to leave it there.
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Originally posted by Old Greg View PostCan you really not see? Honestly, not as a debating point? Because you're not stupid. Are you actually astonished that someone reasonable (and I do know what the come-back is on that) might read those words and think that you're anti-semitic?
But, here we go:
It is not a good thing to be 'in it for themselves' and to see Gentiles as 'to be used' - it is a pretty negative view-point to think that people are like this. It is also not reasonable to extrapolate from you your own experience, that because Jewish people that you know in this company are 'like that', then Jewish people in general are like that.
What you have done is to apply this negative view-point to a people, which is prejudice.
You didn't post your original "and there's that thing about the Jews" to attack anti-semitism you posted it as an attack on me. That attack has failed because my original post was not anti-semitic and I add again that I am not an anti-semitist.
Now continue all you like but I'm going to leave it there.Last edited by Churchill; 8 February 2011, 15:31.
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Originally posted by Churchill View PostAnd where is my predjudice against Jews and where particular in my statement?
But, here we go:
It is not a good thing to be 'in it for themselves' and to see Gentiles as 'to be used' - it is a pretty negative view-point to think that people are like this. It is also not reasonable to extrapolate from you your own experience, that because Jewish people that you know in this company are 'like that', then Jewish people in general are like that.
What you have done is to apply this negative view-point to a people, which is prejudice.
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Originally posted by Churchill View PostI'm discussing the issue with the original poster, not someone who has decided to join the fray to try and make himself look good.
You're failing miserably, now kindly stop interrupting.
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Originally posted by sasguru View PostTry to address the issue instead of side-stepping it.
Your comments are there in black and white.
They are pretty clear and unambiguous.
End of story.
You're failing miserably, now kindly stop interrupting.
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Originally posted by Old Greg View PostI do know something of your view of Jewish people. I know that you think:
If you are not anti-semitic (and I have sai I accept I may be wrong) can you not see how you are likely to appear anti-semitic with that statement?
I would define anti-semitism as prejudice against Jewish people.
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Originally posted by Churchill View PostYou don't know what my view is of Jewish people. You've made an assumption and I've told you that your assumption is wrong.
In the interest of closing this altogether. What is your definition of "anti-semitism"?
Originally posted by Churchill View Post'They're in it for themselves. If you're a Gentile you're there to be used.'
I would define anti-semitism as prejudice against Jewish people.
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