Reply to: Oh flipping flip

[darmstadt]

Chucking it down with snow here now

[ThomasSoerensen]

I wanna go to the ring now.... See what you've done?!?

They have had snowfall

Webcam

Unless that melts I guess the trip is off

[The Agents View]

Have to:

(a) see what the weather is like
(b) see how the cold is
(c) persuade Frau D. to let me

but otherwise yes, I wouldn't say no to a trip up to the ring. The only drawback is, is that with winter tyres I'm only limited to 240 (although I did go up to 250 on Monday on the way to work to annoy a BMW 5 series driver) but...

What people forget is that on normal, i.e. non-race days, the ring is basically a normal road which means that you can't overtake on the inside, you have to stick to the posted speed limits (they even put up speed cameras sometimes) and the rest of the StVO (rules of the road) so Mich, you could cruise around in your barge and the tosser in the Porsche Carrera GT would have to sit behind you and wait for a legal place to overtake

Errr..... Speed limits??

During public sessions, its legal status is that of a one-way public toll-road with no speed limit (except on the approach to the two exits). Vehicles must be 100% road-legal (including tyres), and normal German road traffic law applies. Road insurance is also required, but don't assume that your fully comp cover applies - see my insurance page for details.

Legally, you are required to drive on the right side all the way around - legally you are not supposed to cut across the white lines, but the road is one way, so this is not enforced (hence you can take the "racing" line) - the only speed limits are on the entry/exit gantrys of the track.

Overtaking SHOULD be done on the left, but frequently happens on the right - you will normally find that people in slower vehicles indicate right at the start of a straight and get out of the way - if they don't, then most people blast through on the right...... Just my experience and a quote from a website......

I wanna go to the ring now.... See what you've done?!?

[darmstadt]

Have to:

(a) see what the weather is like
(b) see how the cold is
(c) persuade Frau D. to let me

but otherwise yes, I wouldn't say no to a trip up to the ring. The only drawback is, is that with winter tyres I'm only limited to 240 (although I did go up to 250 on Monday on the way to work to annoy a BMW 5 series driver) but...

What people forget is that on normal, i.e. non-race days, the ring is basically a normal road which means that you can't overtake on the inside, you have to stick to the posted speed limits (they even put up speed cameras sometimes) and the rest of the StVO (rules of the road) so Mich, you could cruise around in your barge and the tosser in the Porsche Carrera GT would have to sit behind you and wait for a legal place to overtake

[RichardCranium]

Not only has a stinking cold just come on but its decided to chuck it down with poxy snow (and I've got slippery shoes on as well.) Flipping flip flip.

Shouldn't that be:

(I've got slippery shoes on as well.) Flipping flip flop.

[MaryPoppins]

There is no way in a million years that I would put a sticker on my car saying 'Last week I drove the ring'.

It was bad enough falling out of bed and hurting my knee, without advertising the fact to the entire autobahn

[EternalOptimist]

Why don't you join Mitch.

Have you decorated your Merc with a Ring sticker?

There is no way in a million years that I would put a sticker on my car saying 'Last week I drove the ring'.

It was bad enough falling out of bed and hurting my knee, without advertising the fact to the entire autobahn

[ThomasSoerensen]

Sounds like a Ruhr deal.

Taxi is waiting outside

[Paddy]

Nope, Münster. Quietened down a bit now but still looks like tulipe outside

Sounds like a Ruhr deal.

[ThomasSoerensen]

It's a great feeling, being on the edge. Before I was a conman....I mean agent....I used to race Karts, so I like to think I know what I'm doing in most high speed driving situations. I don't drive an especially fast car (Honda S2000) - fast enough to have fun in, but it's not a ferrari or owt.... Yet the sheer speed at which solid concrete, and re-inforced metal comes flying past you, absolutely scared me sideways - especially as I'd only had the car a couple of months.

That is a circuit which demands the UPMOST respect - it's twisty, it's complicated, and it's tricky with negative and positive cambers all around.

My advice would be to drive WELL within your limits for a few laps - get used to a small section, and drive hard on that, and back off when you've finished that section.

You will never learn the whole circuit in a weekend (or perhaps a year!!)

I agree with all of that.

I was there 3 times last year.

I love the place and treat it with a lot of respect.

Usually I look more in my rear view mirror to let faster guys pass then I look out front. Almost. You know what I mean.

My super charged Z needs to be used properly once in a while - else it grows cobwebs.

[Churchill]

It's a great feeling, being on the edge. Before I was a conman....I mean agent....I used to race Karts, so I like to think I know what I'm doing in most high speed driving situations. I don't drive an especially fast car (Honda S2000) - fast enough to have fun in, but it's not a ferrari or owt.... Yet the sheer speed at which solid concrete, and re-inforced metal comes flying past you, absolutely scared me sideways - especially as I'd only had the car a couple of months.

That is a circuit which demands the UPMOST respect - it's twisty, it's complicated, and it's tricky with negative and positive cambers all around.

My advice would be to drive WELL within your limits for a few laps - get used to a small section, and drive hard on that, and back off when you've finished that section.

You will never learn the whole circuit in a weekend (or perhaps a year!!)

Nice post. However, it's "UTMOST".

[The Agents View]

Just take it easy and enjoy the opportunity to use the full acceleration of your barge.

It's a great feeling, being on the edge. Before I was a conman....I mean agent....I used to race Karts, so I like to think I know what I'm doing in most high speed driving situations. I don't drive an especially fast car (Honda S2000) - fast enough to have fun in, but it's not a ferrari or owt.... Yet the sheer speed at which solid concrete, and re-inforced metal comes flying past you, absolutely scared me sideways - especially as I'd only had the car a couple of months.

That is a circuit which demands the UPMOST respect - it's twisty, it's complicated, and it's tricky with negative and positive cambers all around.

My advice would be to drive WELL within your limits for a few laps - get used to a small section, and drive hard on that, and back off when you've finished that section.

You will never learn the whole circuit in a weekend (or perhaps a year!!)

[ThomasSoerensen]

I've done one of those racing driver courses at Zandvoort and concluded I'm just too crap to even attempt the Ring. I like being alive.

Just take it easy and enjoy the opportunity to use the full acceleration of your barge.

[Mich the Tester]

Why don't you join Mitch.

Have you decorated your Merc with a Ring sticker?

I've done one of those racing driver courses at Zandvoort and concluded I'm just too crap to even attempt the Ring. I like being alive.

[ThomasSoerensen]

They could invite Mr Joachim, Gricer's art teacher. By his name I deduce that he may be German.

http://forums.contractoruk.com/gener...way-cambs.html

Why don't you join Mitch.

Have you decorated your Merc with a Ring sticker?