Reply to: Thatcher - A Truly great woman

[Doggy Styles]

First of all - You are right about the aircraft carriers, purely for show. Estimated survival time during a conflict with say China - about 20 minutes.

You have chosen a bit of an in extremis example and applied it to all potential usage. Not all conflict is with a giant nuclear power.

[Doggy Styles]

wasn't she the one that blew all the North Sea oil cash on bribing people with the right to buy their council house?

I didn't know that all our North Sea oil cash was used to bribe people to buy their council houses. Or that any of it was used.

How did that work?

[lukemg]

First of all - You are right about the aircraft carriers, purely for show. Estimated survival time during a conflict with say China - about 20 minutes. Subs still worth it though.
Secondly - You are right about the North Sea oil revenue - Ask Norway about their trillion pound sovereign fund, set to generate revenue for the nation....forever, we are already suffering from the fall in revenue from reduced oil production (offset at the mo by ridiculous price/keg..)
Thirdly - Had to do something about the unions but wrong to chuck out all the manufacturing with them and to destroy communities to make the point. Again - look at how the germans seem to be able to make stuff still.
Apart from that.....she done well.

[lilelvis2000]

WHS.

I live oop north now, and can see the hardship Thatch caused. Some people don't even have a BTL portfolio or a holiday home in Provence. Or a Range Rover or any children called Tarquin.

Margaret Thatcher went oop North? Well I never!
had she done so she could well have privatised everything past Luton.
wasn't she the one that blew all the North Sea oil cash on bribing people with the right to buy their council house? And then had to raise VAT to make up for the short fall in revenue....I could be wrong though as I was in Canada at the time.

[Mich the Tester]

Yes, just think how competitive our coal mining industry would have been if we'd still been able to shove 6 year old kids down there to haul coal carts in the dark.

Yep, these days, having ´abolished´ slavery and child labour, which have no place in a civilised western society, we buy expensive shoes, handbags and other designer goods that are sewn together by kids in Cambodian sweatshops or Chinese prison camps instead. Out of sight, out of mind.

[amcdonald]

Oh and you might not have noticed that 'overpaid bankers' have managed to **** up the global economy. That's not quite people being 'envious' of their higher salaries. There's more to it than that.

Technically it was Gordon Brown deregulating the banks that caused the global meltdown to be a lot worse than it should have been, and putting this country into debt when times were good didn't help either

In fact is there anything Gordon Brown hasn't cursed ?

[amcdonald]

Do they not have unions in Germany and France? Somehow those two countries managed to keep industries and thus meaningful employment for millions of their citizens.

France did not have Thatcher, but it had Joan of Arc

Joan of Arc was French, I though she was Noahs sister

[Ignis Fatuus]

And do bear in mind that 20% of the UKs tax revenue and 60% of its debt comes from the financial casino

FTFY

[DimPrawn]

Damn, thought this thread was started as a Eulogy. But no it's DA having a wank while wearing his rose tinted spectacles once again. Change the fooking record FFS

WHS.

I live oop north now, and can see the hardship Thatch caused. Some people don't even have a BTL portfolio or a holiday home in Provence. Or a Range Rover or any children called Tarquin.

[AtW]

Change the fooking record FFS

Or else what, you go on strike?

[Bagpuss]

Damn, thought this thread was started as a Eulogy. But no it's DA having a wank while wearing his rose tinted spectacles once again. Change the fooking record FFS

[Alf W]

It was the trade unions that destroyed UKs industry by making it uncompetitive and costly and New labour have finished it off.
she and Reagan also brought down the Soviet Union. And do bear in mind that 20% of the UKs tax revenue comes from the financial industry - overpaid bankers are an irrellevance used to stir up stupid people who are driven by envy.

Yes, just think how competitive our coal mining industry would have been if we'd still been able to shove 6 year old kids down there to haul coal carts in the dark. Much less male unemployment as well if the pesky bleeders hadn't got women equal employment rights. None of this namby pamby maximum working week stuff neither.

Dodgy doesn't seem to realise that without Unions he'd probably still be doffing his hat to the Squire and living on a diet of turnips.

Oh and you might not have noticed that 'overpaid bankers' have managed to **** up the global economy. That's not quite people being 'envious' of their higher salaries. There's more to it than that.

[stek]

Anyone watched 'Brassed Off' recently?

[darmstadt]

Do they not have unions in Germany and France? Somehow those two countries managed to keep industries and thus meaningful employment for millions of their citizens.

France did not have Thatcher, but it had Joan of Arc

Yep, and they can be just as stupid. My grandfather actually went out to Germany after the war with the TUC to help start the unions in Germany. I ******* hate Thatcher, my most worn t-shirt which I got on the march for jobs many years ago...

[MarillionFan]

Nothing wrong with being honest yes, but there is no point in not being sensitive to those going through hard times ....

If you are constantly wary and constantly trying to appease and be sensitive to all then you'll never make a decision. You only have to look at the last 15 years of government, plus the present lot.