Reply to: David Cameron will bow to business and relax immigration cap

[DimPrawn]

I blame the Liberals.

[AtW]

Remember, for every one non-EU migrant, it means that NOT A SINGLE ONE of 350 million working age Europeans was suitable for the job.

Guess what, for any single job easily 349 mln working age Europeans are NOT suitable! Why? Well, how the fook can someone from far away in Germany to be suitable for that requires office presense somewhere in Scotland? This requirements to be in the office cuts out 99.9% of EU citizens straight away.

[Clippy]

True. I wonder if we aren't close to the point where true democracy could be implemented though. Most of the country is on-line and could easily vote. Course this might mean chaos. What would the result of the public getting what it wants, I wonder? Perhaps voting could be limited to the big things, if that's possible. Going to war, elections, EU stuff, getting rid of public health service, hanging, immigration, etc.

Similar to the US 'model' then?


Thing is, the decision to increase the cap is to do with a 'big thing' - International Trade.

I suspect it has more to do with strengthening India at the expense of China.

In a similar vein, there is a call to halt off-shoring in the US - US jobs for US citizens - but I don't believe there has been any significant change in US (corporate/Govt) policy.

[TimberWolf]

And who would replace them?

They (politicians) are all a bunch of thieving, lying bar stewards.

True. I wonder if we aren't close to the point where true democracy could be implemented though. Most of the country is on-line and could easily vote. Course this might mean chaos. What would the result of the public getting what it wants, I wonder? Perhaps voting could be limited to the big things, if that's possible. Going to war, elections, EU stuff, getting rid of public health service, hanging, immigration, etc.

[Clippy]

Sadly we can't kick a government out mid-term. Or can we? That would keep them on their toes.

And who would replace them?

They (politicians) are all a bunch of thieving, lying bar stewards.

[gingerjedi]

Sadly we can't kick a government out mid-term. Or can we? That would keep them on their toes.

It's a coalition so shouldn't be too hard, every Lib Dem voter in the country is seething with anger at just about everything this government has done.

Ed Miliband though...

[NoddY]

Remember, for every one non-EU migrant, it means that NOT A SINGLE ONE of 350 million working age Europeans was suitable for the job.

[TimberWolf]

What's really tragic is that some of these millions are good people with proper skills who want to work, I don't see any justification for non EU immigrants coming here to work, it's a fecking disgrace that Labour let it happen and it's even worse that the Tories are going to let it carry on.

Sadly we can't kick a government out mid-term. Or can we? That would keep them on their toes.

[MrMark]

What's really tragic is that some of these millions are good people with proper skills who want to work, I don't see any justification for non EU immigrants coming here to work, it's a fecking disgrace that Labour let it happen and it's even worse that the Tories are going to let it carry on.

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[gingerjedi]

They are getting their vote-losing policies out of the way now. They've got a few years before they have to start knocking out vote-winners.

That said, this is daft. We've got millions of British people sitting on their arses, and HMG have been convinced that Bob and the rest are good at what they do.

What's really tragic is that some of these millions are good people with proper skills who want to work, I don't see any justification for non EU immigrants coming here to work, it's a fecking disgrace that Labour let it happen and it's even worse that the Tories are going to let it carry on.

[Doggy Styles]

They are getting their vote-losing policies out of the way now. They've got a few years before they have to start knocking out vote-winners.

That said, this is daft. We've got millions of British people sitting on their arses, and HMG have been convinced that Bob and the rest are good at what they do.

[Alf W]

Any economists among us who can work out just how fast the economy would need to be growing to accommodate this and not have an effect on indigenous workers?

When will the government realise that we vote for them not business, feckers.

Do you fund their election campaigns? - No
Do you offer them lucrative Non-Exec Directorships and Consultancy roles after they stand down? No.
Do you sponsor thinly veiled champagne receptions at their annual conferance? - No.

Are they going to listen to you? No.

You were all warned about voting this lot in.

[gingerjedi]

It's worth repeating again and again when they lie, especially on such an important matter, and it had been reported here before that, not least by me as it was happening. What I'd like to know is whether the numbers allowed in will be greater than was the case under Labour and whether the minimum salary set for ICTs will be applicable to this other route too. Also, is there room for 50,000 IT workers per year in the UK?

Any economists among us who can work out just how fast the economy would need to be growing to accommodate this and not have an effect on indigenous workers?

When will the government realise that we vote for them not business, feckers.

[TimberWolf]

It's worth reporting twice...

It's worth repeating again and again when they lie, especially on such an important matter, and it had been reported here before that, not least by me as it was happening. What I'd like to know is whether the numbers allowed in will be greater than was the case under Labour and whether the minimum salary set for ICTs will be applicable to this other route too. Also, is there room for 50,000 IT workers per year in the UK?

[TiroFijo]

Oh look: http://forums.contractoruk.com/gener...ain-saved.html

It's worth reporting twice...