Reply to: Leaving without notice

[Dundeegeorge]

You smooth-talking devil JW

Let me destroy you IR35 - I want to completely wipe you from this board - I want to squash you, pulverise you, mash you. Got a knob of butter ?

But remember butter may contain salt. You'd best use KY jelly....

[Jabberwocky]

Let me destroy you IR35 - I want to completely wipe you from this board - I want to squash you, pulverise you, mash you. Got a knob of butter ?

[IR35 Avoider]

the aim of every company is to generate more profit than anyone else - resources are finite - therefore so is wealth

Three wrong statements in a row - you continue to have some very strange ideas when it comes to economics, though to be fair I've gathered you don't mean everything you say on these boards.

[Dr Evil]

In that case quit

I think that's what he is saying isn't it? Of course, as Tarzan would say, you shouldn't let go of one vine, until the next is firmly in your hands.

As an aside, I was offered a contract like this about a year ago. I told the agency that this was not enforceable as it made no allowance for me to terminate my employment in any way other than seeing out the contract, and as such was not enforceable under law. I gave them some bollocks about being an effective restriction of trade, (bluster admittedly) it worked and they came back with a revised offer of two weeks to me, versus one month to them.

Johnny - why not try the same?

[DodgyAgent]

There are no project managers, and it is not a client I would work for in the future.

In that case quit

[JohnnyLow]

You didn't want the role but were froced at knifepoint to sign the contract, is that it? You're in a role you don't like and you'll leave as soon as you can, is that with or without serving a notice period? What?

I accepted a dodgy contract with no notice period specified for myself at all, but one day notice for the client and the agency for the first month. As far as I'm concerned they have set themselves up for a walk out with that one. Otherwise I would serve the notice period specified.

(No knife, but there is a thing called rent that needs to be paid.)

[JohnnyLow]

So you would be happy never to be considered for work by the client, or by any of your project managers in the event that they move?

There are no project managers, and it is not a client I would work for in the future.

[Dundeegeorge]

What's you pint here?

I got fed a whole lot of lies and suckered into a dodgy Computer People contract at a tulipty rate, with a one day notice period for the client, and no clause allowing for me to give notice.

I took it cause I needed the cash, but I will be out the door in a second when something better (i.e. pretty much anything) comes up.

I am an ethical guy, but as far as I'm concerned I am not obligated to behave ethically towards a company or individual who has not paid me the same courtesy.

Loyalty is a two way street.

You didn't want the role but were froced at knifepoint to sign the contract, is that it? You're in a role you don't like and you'll leave as soon as you can, is that with or without serving a notice period? What?

[DodgyAgent]

I got fed a whole lot of lies and suckered into a dodgy Computer People contract at a tulipty rate, with a one day notice period for the client, and no clause allowing for me to give notice.

I took it cause I needed the cash, but I will be out the door in a second when something better (i.e. pretty much anything) comes up.

I am an ethical guy, but as far as I'm concerned I am not obligated to behave ethically towards a company or individual who has not paid me the same courtesy.

Loyalty is a two way street.

So you would be happy never to be considered for work by the client, or by any of your project managers in the event that they move?

[JohnnyLow]

I got fed a whole lot of lies and suckered into a dodgy Computer People contract at a tulipty rate, with a one day notice period for the client, and no clause allowing for me to give notice.

I took it cause I needed the cash, but I will be out the door in a second when something better (i.e. pretty much anything) comes up.

I am an ethical guy, but as far as I'm concerned I am not obligated to behave ethically towards a company or individual who has not paid me the same courtesy.

Loyalty is a two way street.

[DodgyAgent]

Shall I go round the houses, or tell it to you straight?

Clearly you're unfamiliar with the latter otherwise you'd know what it meant.

There you go, unable to answer a straightforward question. So really you are a "talk the talk" type

[Fungus]

Shall I go round the houses, or tell it to you straight?

Clearly you're unfamiliar with the latter otherwise you'd know what it meant.

Is that what they call obfuscation?

[Dundeegeorge]

Leave it Darren, he's not worth it.....

Shall I go round the houses, or tell it to you straight?

Clearly you're unfamiliar with the latter otherwise you'd know what it meant.

For somebody who wants to tell it straight, you're making a bit of a song and dance about going round the houses to tell him, don't you know.

[Denny]

And what does that mean?

Shall I go round the houses, or tell it to you straight?

Clearly you're unfamiliar with the latter otherwise you'd know what it meant.

[DodgyAgent]

The best way to influence someone is to tell it to them straight..

And what does that mean?