Reply to: Just been pulled for speeding

[AtW]

threaded - cops were uniformed (as they should), plus they did not charge with dangerous driving as speed was below 100 mph.

That could be a bit hard to prove as there were only 3 of us there i.e. me and 2 coppers.

Indeed, but it would be good to see if coppers dare to lie in court... they also may have CCTV camera in front of their car showing you and one copper talking - images from that camera may be used as evidence.

[BoredBloke]

That could be a bit hard to prove as there were only 3 of us there i.e. me and 2 coppers.

[threaded]

I recon getting pulled for speeding by a plain clothes cop car is also evidence of driving without due care and attention, and should be treated as severely.

Yet, they only give speeding tickets, so I would suggest you have got off lightly.

[AtW]

A bit like Samson then? Steal his cap and he's impotent. Worth remembering.

I am pretty sure there are legal precedents where policeman without hat on was ruled by court as not acting as policeman at the time, and thus all done at the time (ie caution, issue penalty) is not legal.

[Fungus]

AFAIK if a policeman has no hat then he has no powers of a policeman - he can't caution you or issue ticket. In effect (I believe) they had no more right to give you ticket as I do.

Have they given you caution, ie anything you say can be used against you?

In principle its a fair cop thing, best to take points (3?) and fine.

A bit like Samson then? Steal his cap and he's impotent. Worth remembering.

"'Ello ello ello, oooh where's me 'at gorn, damn, now what comes after 'ello, damn, I'm sure I knew."

[AtW]

Neither wore their hats.

AFAIK if a policeman has no hat then he has no powers of a policeman - he can't caution you or issue ticket. In effect (I believe) they had no more right to give you ticket as I do.

Have they given you caution, ie anything you say can be used against you?

In principle its a fair cop thing, best to take points (3?) and fine.

[BoredBloke]

The coppers were wearing uniforms - there were 2 one with a jacket on and the driver without. Neither wore their hats. The car was a Vauxall of some description - I think it was and Omega. I can't say anymore than that as it was dark where they stopped me.

[AtW]

Tony - were the police uniformed and wearing hats?

[Bagpuss]

All sorted. Just got back from dealing with the rozzers. Handed over all the paperwork and just kept the girl on the desk talking while she was supposed to be checking my documents. I now have a bit of paper to say that everything was in order. So £60 and the points then.

Cheers for all the advice on this.

Marc - No I don't have the best of luck with cars. Do you remember the saga with the sub frame. The Ford garage on the outskirts of Staines quoted me £540 for it. The local Ford garage did it for £270. That was what it failed its MOT on.

Good result, as future ref, what make and model was the unmarked car?

[BoredBloke]

All sorted. Just got back from dealing with the rozzers. Handed over all the paperwork and just kept the girl on the desk talking while she was supposed to be checking my documents. I now have a bit of paper to say that everything was in order. So £60 and the points then.

Cheers for all the advice on this.

Marc - No I don't have the best of luck with cars. Do you remember the saga with the sub frame. The Ford garage on the outskirts of Staines quoted me £540 for it. The local Ford garage did it for £270. That was what it failed its MOT on.

[wendigo100]

tracked down the license - so all i have to do is pay the fine and explain the discrepancy in the dates on the MOT

Tony, you don't have the best of luck with your cars, do you.

[AtW]

Put a few £50 notes inside your paper license - always works in Russia

hth

[BoredBloke]

tracked down the license - so all i have to do is pay the fine and explain the discrepancy in the dates on the MOT

[AtW]

Shall we run a sweepstake on the outcome? I'll kick off with a 6 month ban and £1000 fine (you narrowly escape a prison term).

He will get fine and points - maximum, there is no chance for prison sentence of any kind.

[The Lone Gunman]

Sorry, for a moment I thought you were telling us you had met a very friendly copper