Reply to: Root of all Evil - Ch4

[threaded]

25.8068 is the root of all evil.

[Xerxes]

I think we are all shaped and defined by our actions. The label you attach to yourself is not relevant to anybody, including God. If I do terrible things but call myself a Christian, that doesn't make me a good person doing bad things. I am a bad person doing bad things. It's the message that's important.

So as you said, the root of all evil is a simplistic concept and could be applied to many other things as well.

I didn't see the programme by the way, but many people said it was interesting.

[wendigo100]

It's on again next week, same time. I wonder what that instalment will bring?

I think next week it is: Sex is the root of all evil

Or Power. Or Money. Or Democracy.

Or Giant Alien Lizards.

[ladymuck]

I watched it and found it very interesting from all sides of the fence. It is this kind of debate that we need to have. But, unfortunately, the religious extremists won't entertain the idea that a life without religion can (or should) exisit (both the muslim and that bloke with the teeth being fine examples).

Although I am an atheist, I don't condone removing religion. But what does really annoy me is that most if not all religions preach tolerance and understanding at their core. This is something sadly lacking on all sides. People are blinded by their interpretation of religious 'fact' and refuse to acknowledge other world views.

It's on again next week, same time. I wonder what that instalment will bring?

[AlfredJPruffock]

Abraham got visited by God in Ur ( Iraq). This led to Jews, Christians and Muslims.

There was also some egyptian pharaoh who believed only in the sun god and no others. Can't remember his name or if he preceded Abraham.

Oh God said to Abraham, "Kill me a son"
Abe says, "Man, you must be puttin' me on"
God say, "No." Abe say, "What?"
God say, "You can do what you want Abe, but
The next time you see me comin' you better run"
Well Abe says, "Where do you want this killin' done?"
God says, "Out on Highway 61."



Now the rovin' gambler he was very bored
He was tryin' to create a next world war
He found a promoter who nearly fell off the floor
He said I never engaged in this kind of thing before
But yes I think it can be very easily done
We'll just put some bleachers out in the sun
And have it on Highway 61.


Alf Zimmerman

[Churchill]

Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses ......

Soylent Green, anyone...?

[zathras]

Did n't see it after hearing him on the Jeremy Vine show.

Frankly I don't and it was also muddled thinking which if I remember the Vine show goes something like Without Religion Evil people will do evil and good will do good but it takes religion to make good people do evil.

Err... It's from religion one gets the concept of good and evil so without religion there would be no good and no evil.

Further our concept of good and evil has come from religion. Many of our laws have at their root religious rules.

Evil men may misinterpret religious rules to justify their actions but they are not evil because of the religion

[PerlOfWisdom]

The answer is that Human beings is thick, innit?

Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses ......

[Gibbon]

Abraham got visited by God in Ur ( Iraq). This led to Jews, Christians and Muslims.

There was also some egyptian pharaoh who believed only in the sun god and no others. Can't remember his name or if he preceded Abraham.

[sasguru]

How did religion develop into what it is today?

As far as I understand all religion is based on so called "Earth Worship", pretty much like the beliefs still held by Aboriginals,American Indians and African Bushmen.

The way I understand it "Gods" where created by generations of personification of the various natural elements eg thunder,fire, the sea etc

What I dont understand (As I is not a skoh lah) is, if you accept my defination of the origins of religion, is where it changed , especially where and why religion metomorphasized into the most common theistical construct of an single deity.

If anyone who knows would care to enlighten me, I would appreciate it. Please be as verbose and condescending as possible.

The answer is that Human beings is thick, innit?

[BoredBloke]

I only caught a bit of it, but it was the bit which showed the New York born Jewish guy who is now a fully fledged Muslim. Had to turn it over before my foot went through the screen. The bigotry and hatred from this bloke was somewhat disturbing.

[sunnysan]

Development of religion

How did religion develop into what it is today?

As far as I understand all religion is based on so called "Earth Worship", pretty much like the beliefs still held by Aboriginals,American Indians and African Bushmen.

The way I understand it "Gods" where created by generations of personification of the various natural elements eg thunder,fire, the sea etc

What I dont understand (As I is not a skoh lah) is, if you accept my defination of the origins of religion, is where it changed , especially where and why religion metomorphasized into the most common theistical construct of an single deity.

If anyone who knows would care to enlighten me, I would appreciate it. Please be as verbose and condescending as possible.

[hyperD]

The American Evangalists were almost as frightening (they did have nice teeth though) as the Islamic fundamentalist born as a jew.

Quite a reasonable interpretation IMHO.

Out of all the religious groups the catholics came across as fairly benign but a gentle reminder of contreception, Africa and AIDS and a couple of interview with some deranged Irish women soon put right to that.

I agree, both the Christian fundamentalist (with a mouth like a ripped arsehole) and the "full of rage" mad mullah were exceptionally scary.

They really sounded like mentally disturbed people.

Those Christian fundamentalist gatherings\Alpha courses\et al look strikingly similar to one of those ridiculous Amway meetings.

[foritisme]

Root of all evil - CH4

CH4 - that is my postcode, always thought it was a dodgy are to live.

[expat]

Root of all Evil - Ch4
Continues next week I think where he argues why the Christian God is one of the most vindictive of fictional creations.

George Monbiot argued in his column Better Off Without Him that the "Christian Virtues" are best represented in godless societies.