Originally posted by Tin Pot
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Originally posted by AlfredJPruffockStill tinkling those ivories ?
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Originally posted by Tin PotCould be, could be...do you owe him any money? I mean me?
Still tinkling those ivories ?
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Originally posted by AlfredJPruffockMaybe Ive got the wrong man but is that you AT ?
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Originally posted by Tin PotAh, buy if you think the price is going up - short if you think the price is going down.
Bracket to limit your profits and losses.
Seems straightforward...so how come I'm bankrupt already?
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Originally posted by Rebecca Loosyou don't need any training, that's easy. Build shares, sell shares. Short-sell shares, buy-to-cover shares
All thru an online broker
Bracket to limit your profits and losses.
Seems straightforward...so how come I'm bankrupt already?
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Originally posted by Fungus"I spent three months on a contract, where on a day to day basis I was given virtually nothing to do."
Some of my best projects were conducted largely from my living room, ably supported by a telephone, packet of McVities and Test Match Special. Those were the days.
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Originally posted by Tin PotI've upgraded my skill set to MSSQL 2005, now where do I get online trading training?
Job done.
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you don't need any training, that's easy. Build shares, sell shares. Short-sell shares, buy-to-cover shares
All thru an online broker
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Originally posted by Rebecca Loos...
you would also have invested in some shares in the stock market and play a bit of day-trading game during office hours
... and made about £10,000 on day-trading on the British stock market.
....And I have nearly doubled a wee pot of money I've got on the Nasdaq.
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Originally posted by expatScapegoat? I've had one of those contracts.
The using up the budget idea makes some sense, but it was May-July and not many companies have a year that ends in the summer.
As to the 'make your own work' comment, then this expectation might be fine for a BA, but for a numpty code monkey who's only there to implement bug fixes and feature enhancements, on a product that I knew zip all about, I don't see what I realistically should 'invent'. As I said, this was pre internet so no chance to do some 'research' on what the market/technology is doing, in my spare time.
Finally, an inability to do nothing. Guilty, you are right, I can't do nothing sucessfully! (I'm really envious of those useless ****ers that I have previously worked with, who get multiple extension in an environment where there is actually lots of work to do, by sucessfully doing nothing useful all day). But, I had learnt from a previous contract (actually my first) where I had been let go because of this inability to do nothing. However, the reality was that I was simply not being fed enough work by my team lead who worked at a different site and thus never saw that I finished the work in half the time allocated. I thought that I was doing really well finishing it so quickly, but the PM, who was in the next room to me, thought that I was that lazy ****er who did nothing for half the day. Yes this was niave of me but I learnt that I should ask for more work when I had finished the previous allocation.
Tim
(25 years in and still only the code monkey. I still can't seem to get this "looking busy when I'm not" skill, that all managers have).
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"I spent three months on a contract, where on a day to day basis I was given virtually nothing to do."
Either:
a) The manager hadn't a clue what was going on, and it was up to you to convince him that you were making a contribution.
b) He was spending spare money from that years budget. It's usually better to spend all of the money allocated for a year, rather than finish the year having underspent. Otherwise next year's budget will be cut. On my last contract we worked restricted hours for 9 months, and then long hours at the end of the financial year.
c) He did not like you. There's often not much you can do about it. You might be highly qualified and the manager resents that. Or you might be old and he wants youngsters. It's weird how the impression you make can be far more important than your ability and how hard you work.
d) You're useless! That's rare in my experience. Even people that are tulipe at the job usually last 6 months.
e) You got shafted behind your back by someone else. Maybe another manager was protecting his empire by making sure work went to other people who were more useful to his empire.
In such a situation I'd try and figure out how to make a useful contribution and if that is not possible, I'd use the free time to find a better contract.
I've been in such a situation as a permie, about 12 years ago. When I complained, the manager treated me as the one at fault. Never expose someone elses incompetence.
Fungus
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Originally posted by privateeyeThe worst thing is trying to look busy especially if you are by the door and everyone coming in can see you surfing.
The only thing to do then is say emphatically that you're ready for anything that comes up and then brazen it out, or arrange to end the contract if the ridiculous situation continues.Last edited by OwlHoot; 9 January 2006, 20:32.
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Originally posted by tim123Come renewal time (not that I really wanted one) the client told the agency that I wasn't up to the job and wouldn't be re-newed. I never did find out what job it was, that I wasn't up to.
tim
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your a contractor, they are prolly expecting you to use some initiative and GET YOUR OWN WORK!
Therefore it does happen that pseduo jobs are created where there is simply nothing whatsoever to do,purley in order to preserve budget allocations, good news for the contractor and the agent.
Of course there is where the seasoned contractor who knows the score steps in.
The last thing the IT manager whom simply wished to preserve his budget needs is somebody who is going to embarrass and even upset the poor manager by demanding non existant work.
More likely this form of misguided enthusiasm will lead to an early contract termination.
Hope that helps.Last edited by AlfredJPruffock; 9 January 2006, 15:56.
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